1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2022 NBA Draft Lottery

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 17, 2022.

  1. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    22,619
    I will bet anyone any amount of money that Banchero will never be a top 10 guy in the league.
    He has the lowest ceiling of the top 3, highest floor for sure.

    As far as his body development, it’s very clear that he matured early. Wide shouldered with fairly lean muscle mass. There’s not much more room for growth on his frame, if he does he will be going to way of Zion, which should be a very real question mark with him.
     
  2. red5rocket

    red5rocket Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    11,370
    Likes Received:
    14,766
    Chet comp is Porzingis
     
  3. MystikArkitect

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    14,095
    Likes Received:
    22,906
    https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2022...-every-shot-assist-turnover-steal-and-rebound

    Here's a good write up of what you can expect to see with Banchero on this team. Imagine a pick and roll scenario with Banchero and Green. Or a scenario where Banchero has Green/KPJ in the open court after a rebound. Even better now that they're going to outlaw the take fouls.

    The other main thing that people aren't talking about is ability to draw fouls. He already knows how to do this and can do it much better than either Chet or Smith.
     
    Phillyrocket, Nook and D-rock like this.
  4. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    22,619
    Duke combine. Numbers are fudged.
    Every scouting report you read says limited vertical pop, average to solid athlete.

    If we’re going off of numbers like that, fine, Corey Kispert is an elite NBA athlete
     
    Williamson likes this.
  5. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    22,619
    And? I’d take a healthy Porzingis over any one of those players
     
  6. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,662
    Likes Received:
    19,190
    There’s literally video.
     
  7. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    22,619
    And again, I’m not even remotely against drafting Paolo at 3. He is the third best prospect in this draft imo. He can be an all star level player at his peak.
    Chet and Jabari have higher ceilings, better shooters and far better defenders.
     
  8. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    22,619
    I saw the video a long time ago, jackass.
    You know there’s ways to fudge verticals right?
    You can literally drop the sticks to it.
    Most schools are known for juicing numbers.

    Again, jackass, Corey Kispert had a 37.5 inch vert at the actual combine, with good movement tests. He’s an elite athlete by your standards
     
  9. Spooner

    Spooner Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2009
    Messages:
    8,052
    Likes Received:
    2,841
    Sengun is devolving as a off the catch shooter. DEVELOPING. It’s not even close to reliable. Bancharo shot 36% from 3 of catch and shoot last year. That is what we hope Sengun can do one day. Have you ever seen Sengun take a jumper off the dribble? Be honest. I’m not even sure he’s reliable from midrange at this point. Bancharo is a 3 level scorer and a forward. Sengun is a center and strictly a center because he’s not as athletically gifted or skilled enough as Paolo who can play forward in the NBA.
     
  10. KingSamJack

    KingSamJack Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2013
    Messages:
    2,214
    Likes Received:
    2,653
    He doesn't play basketball anymore he cares more about his political career over basketball.
     
  11. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    22,619
    There’s several highlights of him taking a Dirk style fadeaway in the NBA and off the dribble in Turkey.
    He absolutely has to become a better shooter, but to claim Paolo is any kind of even good shooter is false.
    It’s projection for both. They both have solid form.
    Paolo has a better handle and pull up game, there’s no doubt. Alp has a better post game and potential for shooting.
    The kicker is, one has done it in the best league in the world and is only 3 months older with baby fat and back acne.
    While also being an MVP of the 3rd best league in the world
     
  12. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    22,619
    Banchero is not a 3 level scorer. You and others keep saying that, if you mean he takes shots at 3 levels then so is Alp by that metric.
    Alp can play 4 in this league, there isn’t much physical difference between Alp and Paolo.
     
  13. Spooner

    Spooner Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2009
    Messages:
    8,052
    Likes Received:
    2,841
    I was the largest proponent of Sengun coming into last years draft you don’t have to tell me this. I was the guy everyone ridiculed for having him in my top 5 and you can easily verify that. Please don’t pretend these guys are at the same level shooting. CF would be thrilled if Sengun ever made it to 36% strictly off catch and shoot. He’s got a long way to go and by that point Banchero will have made big improvements as well. Sengun will never have the shooting upside Bancharo has. And that isn’t strictly off catch and shoot Bancharo offers much in the way of shot creation that Sengun never will.
     
    Rockets4Life13 likes this.
  14. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,662
    Likes Received:
    19,190
    Say whatever you want, I have eyes. If you think Sengun and Banchero are on the same level as athletes, you’re blind. When Sengun dunks, he has to stretch his entire length. When Banchero dunks, his head is at the rim.
     
  15. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    22,619
    Ultimately Banchero is probably somewhere in between Randle and a less athletic but healthy MPJ. That’s a great player.
    Does it work with Green, KPJ and Alp? To be seen
     
  16. DatRocketFan

    DatRocketFan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,665
    Likes Received:
    17,779
    It literally comes down to how much stock u take in European players when u r comparing sengun to banchero.

    I don't think sengun is more athletic than Banchero in the phsyical department

    Man was huffing and puffing in the beginning of the season, and took awhile to get used to the NBA's pace.
    I do think Sengun has extremely high bb IQ for a 19 year old. Savvy rookies is something u don't see all the time.

    some Folks like savvy players, while some folks like more athletics gifted ones.

    Different folks, different strokes. But i think the savvy ones r rarer.
     
  17. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    22,619
    Shot creation from face up game absolutely goes to Paolo. I don’t think there’s much separation between them shooting if they both reach their peak.
     
  18. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    22,619
    Lmao, Paolo head at the rim? Ok man
     
  19. Spooner

    Spooner Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2009
    Messages:
    8,052
    Likes Received:
    2,841
    And that is too silly of an argument to entertain. I’m out. Peace.
     
  20. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,662
    Likes Received:
    19,190
     

Share This Page