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Elon vs Twitter update: Elon helped America win , Tesla stock through the roof

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Mar 26, 2022.

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Who is for democracy?

  1. Elon

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  2. Twitter

    9 vote(s)
    15.3%
  3. Chinese democracy by Guns N Roses

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    27.1%
  1. Bandwagoner

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    Musk is all about Mars, Luna is a dead, dry ball of useless rock.
     
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  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It is a game, and he's winning.


    I think for Musk the thing that pissed him off (or scared him?) the most must have been the idea of taxing his stock holdings. Honestly, that was a huge blunder by dems, as if they got anywhere serious with it, even I would consider voting a straight Republican ticket to punish them for that.
     
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  3. tinman

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    They just got plants to work with Lunar soil
     
  4. Space Ghost

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    Yes exactly. Liberals love their pointless milestones.
     
  5. Amiga

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    I don't think it has anything to do with the Democrats or the Republicans.

    Musk is trying to expand and attract a type of fanboy group. Trump fanboys are some serious stuffs and he's playing to win that level of attachment.

    He will accomplish that but boy, he's playing with fire that he won't be able to put out and the backlash is going to make a big dent into his market. I think it's a miscalculation that will end up shrinking his business. But maybe he doesn't care about the financials anymore but care much more about attention.
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    The Musk transformation since Covid has been interesting. He went from California's darling bae to the scorned ex.

    There are the original hardcore fan boys and there are the people who have great respect for the mans accomplishment. I grew up around Clear Lake and the latter accomplishments of NASA. The last 2 or 3 decades NASA has been a massive disappointment and a direct reflection of government bureaucracy. No matter what you want to bemoan about Musk, he has made massive strides in space exploration. There is no stupid technicalities like 'oh he bought the car company ,he didnt found it'. This is literally one of the dumbest statements I've heard regarding musk.

    During this same time period, Houston was competing with LA as the city with the highest air pollution. I've always viewed vehicles as a necessary means, not as some weird egocentric identifier of wealth or status. How has our society delved to such pathetic level that we have to drive around in big expensive vehicles to make ourselves feel better. I greatly appreciate Musk taking the lead in developing a viable all-electric vehicle to market. Is it perfect and has he delivered on every minute promise? Of course not. But it is a really good car given the alternatives. Yes, there are massive negative environmental impact in the production of the vehicle, but at least it is contained vs me sitting behind a d******d in traffic in a lifted diesel pickup truck that has only seen the bed used once in its lifetime.

    Now there is a new type of fan boy he is attracting, like a Kardashian for men. They find his childish behavior and his anti-establishment/anti-liberal mantra highly amusing. To each and their own I suppose.

    I have stated a couple times I fear Musk could become too influential and very petty. But just as important, I also fear the blind institutional mindset can drive Musk elsewhere.

    All in all, there are worse things to worry about than Musk at the moment.
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I really think Musk feels that he was being targeted by liberals for his stock wealth and not having to pay taxes on it - and that got him angry.

    I mean that would piss me off too. Not trying to defend his actions now, I'm not a fan boy but I'm not a hater either. I think targeting rich entrepreneurs was a bad move. The left doesn't have a lot of rich people on its side, and you need rich people on your side in this country to win elections. So yeah, don't piss off all the rich people. Especially the ones who's wealth is all paper.
     
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    Could be but that was not going to get any traction. It would piss of much more than just the ultra rich. Taxing unrealized gain is just a very bad idea. There is much better ways to close the wealth gap.

    If that’s what Musk is really pissed about, he is not being grounded or realistic.
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    When you are that successful, and build multiple companies that are high profile that appear to be in service of the world - think about it, he made a successful electric car company....he's definitely got a messiah complex.

    So he's long gone from being grounded or realistic. He sees the world through his lens - which is that, "I have done so much for humanity, how dare they attack me???"
     
  11. Os Trigonum

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    there's attempted mind reading going on in this thread
     
  12. tinman

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    The left hates Elon Musk because he’s a twin threat that doesn’t tolerate BS

    https://nypost.com/2022/05/19/the-left-hates-elon-musk-because-hes-a-tycoon-they-cant-bully/

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    Musk is our greatest tycoon, and while NASA can’t seem to get a spaceship into orbit reliably, he’s been launching rockets and satellites and astronauts at a pace that no mere nation-state can achieve. And he’s doing this while also manufacturing electric cars that no one else can match, digging tunnels that no one else can equal, and dominating the field of residential solar energy. His critics, meanwhile, only dominate the field of kvetching.
    more at the link
     
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    lol is that true? hilarious
     
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    "Now, listen, Jerry, I'm looking for negative control. Okay? No more than 30, 35 percent. Just enough to block anybody else's merger plans and find out from the inside if the books are cooked. If it looks as good as on paper, we're in the kill zone, pal. Lock and load."

    Gordon Gekko
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    This is basically what Musk is doing, but he does appear to be intent on buying. Now that he has an acceptance of his initial offer from the Twitter board, which was based on certain representations by the company being verifiable and correct, he is trying to figure out if the books are cooked. Since the organization is run by radical leftists, it has to be presumed that they are. And by all current appearances it looks like they very probably are. If they are, then the price for the transaction will of course have to be modified accordingly to adjust it with the situation that actually exists in real life reality.

    That is the correct process to follow here. If you do not think so, then you are just being irrational and unreasonable.
     
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    The correct process would have been to use his position on the board to understand the bots situation, come up with a reasonable valuation of the company, and accordingly make his offer. He said at the outset that his offer was final and non-negotiable and asserted that if Twitter refused to engage than they are somehow violating their fiduciary duty to investors. And now he wants to negotiate to a significantly lower price while making accusations without any backing evidence.
     
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    I have always like Elon but recently he is showing me he has thin skin, the childish tweets remind me of someone who compulsively has to read every negative comment and then attack who ever said it and this whole notion of his going to the GOP is simply ridiculous, go and do it that's your choice but don't come off as saying there the good guys.......come on man. I do give him major props for SpaceX, that is cool as hell and I am glad he is bringing jobs to Texas

    I`m the old guy yelling to get off my lawn, but give me the character of a Warren Buffett over any of these modern day billionaires
     
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    This is the key word in your statement.
     
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    He is not on the board.
     

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