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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by finsraider, Mar 17, 2022.

  1. Verbal Christ

    Verbal Christ Member

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    Chets transition game is a strength. No doubt. He can take a rebound and get out on you if you allow it. My concern is a half court setting - say in a game 7 of a playoff series where its not nearly as free flowing and series are decided by one or two plays. Can Chet be a guy who can go get his bucket or create for others if Jalen is schemed out of that possession? Is there any reward for using Chet as a decoy with the ball in his hands setting up other clutch shooters like KPJ? Can Chet have court vision to see those plays materialize and make the right pass to win a game?

    My concern with Jabari is not only the eye raising rim numbers and paint percentages, but the fact that in the NBA you can scheme great shooters out of critical possessions if there isnt enough drive and dish guys to set up that type of player. I suppose you could go all out running some crazy ass weave with multiple picks to get him open, but it doesnt seem like winning basketball to me if the defense knows where you want to go before you do.
     
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    It doesn't matter. I'm just a fan shooting the sh$t. Calm.....
     
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    Yeah maybe it's just that video today. As I said, I watched alot of Duke and he looked every bit 6'10". I was just saying that the combine measurements will be interesting.

    Man... you want to get NBA people worked up, just bring up inches lol.
     
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    Ok.

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  5. D-rock

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    Chet has ability as facillitator in transition and as short roller in half court.

    Expecting Chet to facilitate in half court (which he can also do out of DHO) as THE primary playmaker is unusual request for a 4/5.

    The guards and maybe SF are more likely to have this role. Especially in Silas offense.

    Chet is very good playmaker for a 7 foot big. But most 4/5 play off ball and are set up offensively.

    There is no denying that Banchero's best trait is his playmaking, especially for his size. But in almost every single other category, Chet is the more efficient player - offensively and defensively.

    The fact that Chet is so prolific without dominating the ball is significant for a team like the Rockets who already have multiple players who NEED the ball to maximize their success (Green, KPJ, Sengun ... even Wood).

     
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  6. KingSamJack

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    @D-rock are you ready for KPJ and green to get on IG live after we get the #2 pick this year and telling Banchero they will be a "scary trio"
     
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  7. D-rock

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    I just cringed.

    This would be a nightmare scenario.

    Rockets need to avoid this type of perceived bias, legit or not, so they have every opportunity to examine and workout ALL the top 5 prospects.

    Especially critical because there doesn't appear to be any stable consensus with top 3 order.

     
  8. KingSamJack

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    I do think last year the FO did tell kpj who we are picking, but I am 100% sure they are not this year.
     
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    source?
     
  10. KingSamJack

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    Right after we got the second pick he went to Jalen's ig saying they would be a scary backcourt and don't say to much.
     
  11. Verbal Christ

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    "trust me bro" :D:D:D
     
  12. Verbal Christ

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    Prolific is a word more attuned to a volume guy who is unstoppable. Efficient? Sure I would say Chet is very efficient on his limited looks. In a position less environment the more guys who can share the creation load the better. Chet can make a smart pass and see the basic plays evolve, but he isnt using instinct in that department like he does on defense. Chet is not even the best screen setter in a dribble hand off setting or even basic PNR. I like that he can slash some and I think his outside shot is pure. I think you could really install some creative offensive designs if you think outside the box and not relegate players to traditional "roles" according to position - isnt that what makes Chet special? I'd want to unlock Chet, not box him in question is if he's capable to be a lead horse in a race.
     
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    Agreed. That is the concern (as was and frankly still very much is with Evan Mobley). I've seen videos of Chet in High School where I could see traces of Durant style pull ups. For some reason in the Zags offense, they felt that using him as a 3 point/put back threat was the better option. If he can develop that then you'd have at minimum a Hall of Fame level player with an All Timer ceiling. Thats basically what Nowitzki and Durant became.

    I still have Chet as my #1 because the thought of that is too juicy to pass up. But Paolo is a decently close 2nd because he can just straight up run the offense after a rebound or in the half court right away. There's no development required. I just worry about defenses sagging off of him at the 3 point line. You just can't be a bad 3 point shooter in this NBA (Westbrook/Simmons) no matter how much you can run an offense or a break. Harden was such a gamebreaker because of his threat from 3. Can Paolo do that? Can Chet develop his off the dribble game? Questions that will soon be answered.

    I think we're in agreement that Jabari is looking a little more like a 3 and D role player than a bona-fide #2. Steph creates chaos doing the weaving you describe but Steph is a miraculous finisher st the rim too. Jabari is not.
     
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    This YouTube channel creates 2 to 3 hour long "Film Session" videos that aim to include every shot attempt, assist, rebound, and turnover from the season, along with notable defensive possessions (good and bad).

    https://www.youtube.com/c/HardwoodHoopsCentralsNBADraftGreenRoom/videos

    If you want shorter, more easily digestible videos, check out this other channel. They do individual games, showing shot attempts, assists, steals, blocks, and turnovers -- and even display the stats in real time at the bottom of the screen which is nice.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpBh-61hTOGgymrrtILrGog/videos
     
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    Whatever reason Sochan is flying up draft boards and pushing Eason down, it's to Rockets advantage imo.


     
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    I hope @foggy94 does one of these for each of the top 5 (at minimum).

     
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    Thank you!!
     
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  18. groovemachine

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    You feeling Ivey or Banchero more at 3? I'm thinking it's a toss up right now.
     
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  19. D-rock

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    I'm HOPING that Banchero becomes consensus #1 overall.

    This has been my hope from day one.

    This allows Rockets max flexibility if we dont get #1 overall pick.

     
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  20. groovemachine

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    possible, but unlikely. I'm literally torn on the 3rd pick. Is there a precedent for a back court with the athleticism of Ivey/Green?
     
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