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2022 Abortion protests thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, May 5, 2022.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    We've been seeing far more suggestive threatening language used against Dems for years with a lot of hand wringing and excuses made - with many Republicans saying Dems are "triggered".......so it is an interesting shoe on the other foot
     
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    Chief Justice of the Supreme Court John Roberts interpreted that way. Schumer left his comments open to interpretation. That's on him. He shouldn't have said it and he walked it back.

    “I should not have used the words I used yesterday. They did not come out the way I intended to,” Schumer said, adding: “I’m from Brooklyn. We use strong language.”

    Justices of the Supreme Court do not face political consequences. That excuse is disingenuous drivel.
     
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    Nobody should be threatening supreme court justices. Whatever side of the aisle they are on. Let alone Chuck Schumer whose position carries more responsibility and weight.
     
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    Nobody should be threatening any gov't official. Period. Whatever side they are on. We've had the POTUS threaten liberal lawmakers and that was followed by an assault on the US Capitol.
     
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    Sure. Sad we have to always self-edit to the lowest common denominator. But that doesn't mean the lowest common denominator is the ONLY interpretation
     
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    When they are taking political actions, why on earth wouldn't they expect political repercussions?
     
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    They are not subject to political repercussions.
     
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    So every time Chuck Schumer says something bad we have to *checks notes* see what Donald Trump did or said about something?

    How moronic.

    Just says it's bad and move on. But you cannot help yourself with the "WhAt AbouT TruMP" can you?
     
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    When they are taking political actions, and in my opinion they certainly are.
     
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    I suppose that could be on purpose if one's belief is her choice to not retire under Obama was a key domino that led to this moment. Is Ironic the right term?

    The website does cite the protest are peaceful doe.
     
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    What political repercussions are Supreme Court Justices exposed to?

    Many, whose opinions are more worthwhile then you or I, and who presumably aren't right wing fanatics, think Roe v. Wade was bad law.

    Whether the right to abortion is found in the constitution, not specifically enumerated, is the subject of intense debate and disagreement.

    If the people wish, they can have such a right codified by their representatives.
     
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    Damn, why does this clown have a checkmark?
     
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    To protest this decision I will only be going back door
     
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    You know what is actually dangerous??… a justice of the Supreme Court lying in their confirmation hearing and legislating from the bench to take away a 50 year old ruling on a constitutional right.

    But yes let’s try and deflect that fact to talk about how sweet and understanding Chuck Schumer is supposed to be in his response.

    You guys are just very very sad in your continued attempt to deflect because you realize how politically stupid this is. It’s what radical right wing autocrats have been wanting to do for 30 years but you all know how unpopular it is and how damaging this will be to Republicans winning elections… which is why the Republicans are doing this now when they’ve said… OUT LOUD… how they plan to start overturning elections they lose like a dictatorship.

    So yeah what’s next guys???… should be go back
    to “the leaker!!!” or is there a new faux outrage deflection attempt you want to try before you go back??
     
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    I didn't bring Chuck Schumer up. I saw his comments in the thread and then commented on them. Pro-Schumer people then kept that stream alive attempting to cover for him. Terrible comments to make and if a Republican had named and threatened specific Supreme Court Justices, no chance in hell you and others would be "He MeaAnT ThEy WouLd "Pay a price" PolITicALly."

    Yea, Democrats can continue on with the whole "Yule C In the Midterms" - maybe, maybe not.

    I don't know that being pro-abortion is as sympathetic or popular a cause as you believe it to be.
     
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    The framing of “pro abortion” tells you all you need to know about someone’s sincerity on the debate. Nobody wakes up in the morning and says “man.. I could really go for an abortion.” It’s an issue that the far right frames Democrats as and is highly insulting.

    Will the overturning of Roe lead to a Dem victory in November?? Who knows but poling shows that overturning Roe is extremely unpopular and something like 80% of people continually poll in favor of this constitutional right standing.

    What I think will galvanize the Dem coalition will be a mixture of all the unhinged far right issues that make the whole of the Republican Party as toxic and scary as Trump was in 20 which led to the Dems winning even the Senate which was kind of a huge deal given ruby red Georgia couldn’t even stomach MAGA candidates.

    So take from that as you will but if you think that overturning Roe is somehow good for Republicans than obviously Mitch McConnell and FoxNews disagree with you and the highly coordinated campaign to deflect attention tells you obviously they don’t want people to talk about Roe for good reason.
     
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    This sentence says a lot about the disconnect in dialogue between the two sides of this debate.
     
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    Well, "pro-abortion" is actually what it is. We're talking about the right to abortion. People disingenuously use "pro-choice" because "abortion" is an icky word and they don't want to use it. But that's what we're talking about. Abortion. So who is the one who is being insincere here?

    Polling may suggest that nationwide the majority of people are in favor of Roe vs. Wade but that doesn't speak to strength of their support. Look at the President, he may technically be pro-abortion now but if you pressed him he would tell you he doesn't personally believe in it or wouldn't anyone he was related to to get one.

    Incumbent parties traditionally do terrible in the mid-terms, the economy is a disaster and Biden's approval rating is in the toilet, Democrats will send 15 emails a day from now until November about abortion, I don't think it galvanizes like you think it does.

    I don't think overturning Roe vs. Wade is necessarily "good" for Republicans for the mid-term elections, I don't think it brings out more Republican voters but I don't think a woman's right to an abortion is as sympathetic a cause as you think it is. I don't know how many voters who were going to stay at home now come out or how many swing voters go Democrat because of it.
     
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    What is the correct language?
     

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