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[EC Semifinals] (1)Miami vs. (4)Philadelphia

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Apr 28, 2022.

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(1)Miami Heat vs. (4)Philadelphia 76ers

Poll closed May 3, 2022.
  1. Heat in 4

    12.5%
  2. Heat in 5

    29.7%
  3. Heat in 6

    21.9%
  4. Heat in 7

    4.7%
  5. Sixers in 7

    10.9%
  6. Sixers in 6

    17.2%
  7. Sixers in 5

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Sixers in 4

    3.1%
  1. Salvy

    Salvy Member

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    LMAO dude, this was the absolute best thing that could happen for you and your emotional cry baby crew... You get one whole year of an excuse as you recycle the same narrative except this time sprinkled with "he's washed now so we will never know" so you can freeze Harden in time as a champion that never was because of whatever bs lie/excuse you want to insert every time someone talks poorly of your man...

    Harden playing poorly is because of HARDEN.... Not Embiid, Not Maxey... Not Durant Not Paul..... Not Westbrick Not Giannis or Curry.... Not D Howard or Irving..... Not Because of The Rockets or The Nets or 76ers...You keep attaching Embiid to Harden as if Embiid is Harden's shooting arm or something.... Harden could have played well and lost the last two games and I wouldn't have said anything. Because Harden can't control what everyone does. Harden cant control a bad play or poor defensive effort from his teammates. Harden cant call his own fouls or avoid getting hacked. The same way you can't put every single possession on Harden you cant rid him of liability because Embiid is not playing. No one is talking about Philly losing the series because of Harden.... The majority of us who are hurting your feelings have been saying this all along. Harden underperforms in the playoffs.... Especially in big games and history defining moments. If Embiid was to comes back and leads the Sixers to an 0-3 comeback will you say Harden lead them back? No you wont... So stop saying Harden is losing solely because of Embiid....

    I see you want to attach Harden's poor play to Embiid, this is your narrative This is your excuse, you wont negotiate with your emptions. You want accept being wrong. You will grip the Embiid injury tight as an excuse for Harden playing like $hit..... So bask in the news Embiid may be out for the series. Don't b mad.... You just got a whole year worth of excuses, just know that fewer and fewer people agree with you every game Harden plays.... I wonder why..... Its not Embiid's injury thou... That's for sure...
     
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  2. blahblehblah

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    Maybe... I wouldn't count it out, but I also def wouldnt want to be the team paying him his next 4 or 5 year contract if it costs anything close to his max.

    I've always been more skeptical about Harden's game as he ages compared to other stars due to how much of his game is predicated on having the ball in his hands/isolation/fts/mismatch hunting and dribble penetration.

    The CP3 comparison could be possible due to the hamstring injury, but recovery/conditioning isn't just about "hooping" but much more tedious work like diet, recovery, strengthening specific muscles/tendons/ligament through isolated training/rehab/therapy/strength and conditioning work. Many athletes (including Klay last season) have trouble committing and maintaining the work required to offset the effects of aging/injuries.
     
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  3. DatRocketFan

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    Keep pushing the dumb@$$ narrative that Harden is choking without context.

    I'm not the dumb@$$ that likens the loss of embiid is the same as the loss of Lowry.

    Takes a special type of poster to believe Harden choke 7 out of the 8 years with us.

    Not surprised u think me stating that the loss of embiid is excuses for harden faltering vs heats.


    Fewer people care enough to respond to your nonsense antiharden sht takes. Not that folks actually agrees with your sht take don't b spinning stories.

    Harden underperforms in the playoffs.... Especially in big games and history defining moments.
    This is a sht take.

    One of the season u claim Harden "choked"
    Harden scored 35, 29, 41, 38, 31 and 35 Vs gsw
    Anyone that puts up that many points folks shouldn't say anything about him underperforming or choking.

    But since its harden and he lost in that series, u spin it that he "underperforms and chokes". It's these dumba$$ take that folks call u out.
     
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  4. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    Wish the Raptors were playing this series. Watching Harden pass it to Green and Thybulle, who then proceed to throw up clankers, is just not fun basketball.

    Welp, at least Maxey gets experience. Harris seems to be playing great, but Philly needs some depth, and they need some depth, quick. If you really want Jordan back, get him on the vet min. But he and Millsap can't defend at all. Stark contrast between Embiid / DJ / Millsap and Ayton / McGee / Biyombo, over on the Suns.
     
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  5. Os Trigonum

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    just a bad series so far. hard to say any of it is fun to watch
     
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  6. Asian Sensation

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    Dude…. Only 4 points in the second half of both games 1 and 2 just isn’t going to get it done Embiid or no Embiid.
     
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  7. DatRocketFan

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    Embiid compensate for Harden. Game 1 they lost by 14 pts. And game 2 by 16.

    Embiid isn't some rando scrub, so it's not realistic to believe they had a chance of winning if embiid was playing. Man is averaging 26 pts and provides defense/offense gravitational pull.

    Could harden score more? Sure but this variant of harden isn't the primary scorer anymore, he wants to b a robin to embiid.

    Idk y folks expect harden to carry when he's clearly not the same harden anymore. Missing embiid = 76ers most likely lose, it's not that complicated
     
  8. Asian Sensation

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    Of course they lost. The super max bum only scored 4 points in the second half. You’d think with Embiid being out that it would be Harden’s chance to play Batman and step up. Did he do that? No. Did he come anywhere close to doing that? No. What are you still yapping and complaining about? Be quiet, lick your wounds and come back when he actually plays well and when you have a legit reason to defend him.
     
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  9. DatRocketFan

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    Keep btching about harden 24/7, there's really no reasoning with u.

    Everything has to revolved around harden for u.

    Only 4 points in the second half of both games 1 and 2 just isn’t going to get it done Embiid or no Embiid.
    Once more this is a dumba$$ take filled with harden hatred.

    The 76ers lost to a tune of 14 and 16 pts.
    U truly believe that even with Embiid back in those two games, Harden's "poor performance" would have screwed the 76ers regardless is just u pushing your antiharden narrative. Outright disregarding Embiid impact for the 76ers.

    It is reasonable to assume that if Embiid was playing, an mvp caliber center averaging 26 pts in playoffs would have compensate for harden scoring "4 points in the second half".

    U wanting harden to b a batman with embiid out is just u moving goal posts to sht on harden.
     
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  10. jiggyfly

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    Had not paid attention to the 6er's rotation and was very surprised how thin they were, not only thin but really just 3 above average rotation guys outside of Harden and Embid.

    Green should not be getting major minutes on a contender anymore and Nang should be about 9th in the rotation.

    What happened to all the hidden gems Morey would get to fill in rotational minutes?
     
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  11. jiggyfly

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    Dude they did the same thing to Tre and he had much more around him.

    Who they going to give most of the attention to besides Harden?
     
  12. Asian Sensation

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    Sooo mentioning what he did or didn’t do is a dumbass take filled with hatred? Okay.

    and clearly you’re okay with the 4 points and felt as though it eas enough? Got it.

    The point is since Embiid wasn’t there maybe he would rise up to the occasion for once, put his team on his back like a super max player can and carry his team.

    So much hate!!! Durrrrr
     
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  13. Asian Sensation

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    We talking about Harden or Tre? What does Tre have to do with what Harden did or didn’t do? Anyways since you mentioned it Tre got all the smoke and blasted so there’s that.
     
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  14. jiggyfly

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    Nope, I said what I had to say not feeding into your trolling.

    Kick rocks.
     
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  15. roslolian

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    Harden isnt old, he is only 32 yrs old. Everyone keeps talking about the ACL injury but this is the same injury he had when he was playing great the first 5 games after the trade.

    If Harden isnt the same Harden by now guess what it's 100% Harden's fault. Too much partying with Da Baby, too much late night drinking, too much visiting the strippers etc and not enough time put into working out and conditioning. Not enough time put into refining his jumper to compensate for his failing athleticism. Harden is doing the same moves he was doing when he was 29, very little to no improvement ever since he got that MVP which is ironic cuz he mocked Giannis for having no skill but it turns out he was the one who stopped developing his skills. Ah, sorry he did try those bullshit moves for clout like that one legged stepback. Rememeber those? 100% sure he tried out that move to increase his clout for another mvp campaign, you can totally see the change in priorities.

    People expect Harden to carry cuz he is a super max player and thats what super max players are supposed to do. If he cant do that anymore he has no business getting mentioned with the best superstars in the league. Tbh I'm really disappointed with Harden he is turning into another fraud star just like Westbrick. I highly doubt he gets a max deal if he gets swept.
     
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  16. Asian Sensation

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    You think of me as a troll yet you quoted me and I give a legit response and you tell me to kick rocks.

    You fanbois are funny AF.
     
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  17. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    One, not all basketball players age the same. Two, ACL injury? Huh? What ACL injury? Three, maybe there's truth to him participating in too much extracurricular stuff outside of basketball, and thus, it affects his on-court play. But where's the proof that he's constantly out partying and drinking and visiting strippers?

    Where's the proof that he's not putting in time and effort into the game of basketball during the season?

    You're putting forth a whole lot of assumptions just from what you've seen during the offseason and close to the start of the season.
     
  18. roslolian

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    Werent there reports the KD-Harden riff happened right when he showed up at camp bloated and out of shape? If he cant get in shape during the offseason what makes you think he'll have the discipline to get in shape during the season when there's even less time to work on his game? And before you tell me he was injured Kd was injured too how come he didnt enter camp bloated and out of shape like Harden? At some point excuses need to stop.

    Who cares if athletes age differently Harden's only 32. It's not like he was 360 dunking on people during his prime right? He wasnt exactly Vince Carter out there most of his moves are more skill based than athleticism based. If there's anyone who is least affected by Father time it should be him.

    If he isnt partying and visiting strippers what you think he is doing with Da Baby? Reading books? Going to Church? Gimme a break man.

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/11/james-harden-partied-with-travis-scott-lil-baby-after-76ers-loss/

    Here he is partying just last month. Where's the proof? You know how to use google search or not?
     
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    Dude was on the first flight out to Paris to go on tour with Da lil baby when he got eliminated from the playoffs last year. For any other professional that’s unheard of. He’s been carrying around an extra 25 pounds of fat the last couple years. This the same bum that violated multiple Covid restrictions and held us up when he was a Rocket. The same bum that went out to go party after being blown out at home against the Nets in front of his mama. Zero shame.

    Just because there isn’t proof every single time doesn’t mean there aren’t many instances where it’s been well documented. Hell he’s the same joker that admitted this. You’re in more denial than he is.



    It’s kind of hard to give someone like that the benefit of the doubt especially when he’s out of shape, looks disinterested/tired/hungover and hasn’t looked right from a hamstring injury that happened nearly a year ago.

    Sorry Harden, in a league full of athletic freaks and specimens where everyone is trying to gain any kind of competitive advantage they can (taking care of body, rest, rehab, recovery, good sleep, nutritious diet etc) Harden does the exact opposite yet he and his dumbass fans have the deer in the headlights look every summer he gets eliminated and a plethora of excuses that follow year after year. You guys never learn.

    The fan club will conveniently called me a hater cause they don’t got anything else to say. Tell me where I’m wrong.
     
  20. JayGoogle

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    I do think a lot of these discussions have been pretty toxic surrounding Harden which is why I mostly stay out of it.

    I just give my opinion every now and then that Harden will be in the 2nd tier of all time greats. He'll always be behind guys like Jordan and Lebron and Curry and now Giannis and other guys that have led teams to championships and he'll be in that tier with Malone and Barkley and Iverson, and players like that, that just couldn't win either to bad luck or bad timing or just not doing enough. No shame in that

    I don't mind the insult trading but I tend to just stay out of it. I guess I was only just explaining where he comes from. I also don't think he takes it as serious and just likes to poke people about it but I do remember that yeah he was one of the first people to really get on Harden. That's what I mean I guess that if anyone gets to gloat, it's him. Some of these people came in after Harden left. I mean at some times it was him against most of the board so I do get why everytime Harden's team loses he brings it up.
     

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