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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by finsraider, Mar 17, 2022.

  1. cmoak1982

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    Completely disagree about his defense. This team was bad at defense all around, he was one of the few that showed flashes.
    Quick hands and good recovery. He’s got above average length and athleticism, let him grow and get stronger and he’ll be able to bang and defend the post better.
     
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    I believe Dyson will go higher than Eason. His jumper is better and he's a good passer. Playing with the Ignite gives him more experience with the NBA 3 point line. Eason probably won't fall to 17 unfortunately. Stone should select Kessler with the Nets pick, despite him being a one dimensional player. We don't need any SG's who can't play at the 3. TyTy might be gone before 17 too.
     
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    If Dyson goes higher that might push Eason down into the tradeable range for us
     
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    Banchero and Duren woud be my dream frontcourt for this draft. Im sorry Shengoon.
     
  5. saleem

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    I hope so, but I won't offer more than Tate or Martin plus the 17th pick for him.
     
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    Is Leonard Miller a potential sleeper pick?
    He's 6'10, long and athletic.
     
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    Not necessarily true, EG will be gone, KPJ will likely be gone, JC can play point, so there's room for the right 2 guard to get significant minutes after next season. Plus, 3 guard lineups can be very effective down the stretch.
     
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    Just be glad we got Jalen green

    Build around him.
     
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    @cmoak1982 @saleem

    Just FYI a lot of draft twitter scouts are starting to mock Eason out of the lotto into the mid first round range. some even later. Vecenie has him late first maybe early second. not sure why his stock seems to be falling but it is.

    meanwhile Dyson is rising. he was a late lotto - mid first round pick. Mike Schmittz broke that he's up to 6'8" 200lbs (was previously listed 6'6" 180). at his current size and PG skills, he's able to play 3 positions instead of 2. elite defensive potential against 1-3s. if he gains any more weight I think he could legit play 1-4 on both ends. the shot needs work but he showed improvement from being a non shooter in the first half of his season (~25%) to just a bad shooter (>30%) in the second half. if he shows that type of improvement again he'll be average, especially from the corners. but the defense, playmaking, and overall IQ/poise/feel compensates for the shooting. he's looking like a mid-lotto guy right now, but I think he could make a late surge like barnes did last year, especially as the shine starts wearing off on guys like griffin, Davis, and mathurin. he could end up in that 5-8 range.
     
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    Interesting. Eason is more of a project and he's 20. I do think he has very good defensive potential. He needs to work very hard on his 3 point shot. I think the Rockets should strongly consider selecting him at 17, if he falls to them.
     
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    I like his archetype as a fit next to jalen. but if his stock keeps falling I'd probably take someone else at 17 and maybe try to trade for him later in the first round.
     
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    Who else would you consider at 17?
     
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    I would take someone from a higher tier if they fell, regardless of fit. or if picking from the same tier, I'd go with best fit. here's how I tier the draft as of right now.

    T1 - Chet, Paolo, Jabari, ivey
    T2 - Sharpe (could make t1 depending on the rest of the draft process), Murray, griffin, duren, Mathurin, Daniels
    T3 - davis, Sochan, brahnam, williams, Eason, tyty Agbaji
    T4 - Dieng, hardy, brown, lidell, Wesley, walker, bouchamp, Moore, chandler, Koloko, Montero Jovic, mcgowans, laravia, Jalen Williams

    IMO T3 ends right at pick 17, but its hard to imagine Davis and Williams falling out of the lotto. Sochan and Eason stick out as best fits who I'd hope slip to the end of this tier, although I don't see it happening for Sochan. I'd be happy with tyty there too. I wouldn't necessarily want to dip to a lower tier even if we're stuck with another sg like Branham or Agbaji. I'm hoping that another forward or two can work there way into T3 consideration like Dieng, bouchamp, jovic, laravia, Jalen Williams.

    this is another reason why I think there should be opportunity to move up since the same T3 (again in my own opinion) starts at #11. it would make sense for a team like the Knicks to trade down to the end of the tier at pick 17 if it meant collecting an additional asset like Tate or MIL '23 pick. it wouldn't make much sense for us however, unless we just wanted to be sure we're nabbing the perfect fit in someone like Sochan or Mark Williams.
     
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    Highly doubt Stone goes guard with the 2nd pick. I think he and Silas like the current guard rotation and will hopefully focus on improving from Tate with pick 17, but who knows. Tari Eason slipping on draft boards could be a great value at 17 even though I may prefer Ousmane Dieng there if available due to a perceived higher offensive ceiling with similar defensive potential. It would make our front court suddenly huge. Dieng 6-10, Sengun 6-10, 2022 draft pick 6-10 to 7-0.
     
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    it would be nice to have some size on the wing and in the front court again.

    I'm not really in love with the back end of this draft. there's like 15-17 nba players and then the rest are all a shot in the dark.

    I'd rather package tate or wood with #17 and move up into the lotto.
     
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    Jovic, Dieng, Eason, Baldwin Jr,, Brown are all guys as I see as an upgrade over Tate and being in that pick 17 range. It would depend on what the move up would cost for me. Any combo of Tate/Gordon/Wood and protected picks then lets do it (for Keegan Murray preferably) but I wouldnt start moving those BKN picks just yet - they might turn out to be sexy!
     
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    Well it goes further than that.....it took two first round picks to obtain Sengun.

    We won't get equal or greater value back in most instances.

    I'm ok with drafting Banchero with the belief that Banchero will be an upgrade
    long term over Sengun......but the team needs to accept that they took or will take a loss
    on the acquisition of Sengun.

    Where taking best player available without thought hurts the rebuild.

    If I'm 3rd pick or 4th pick and both Ivey and Banchero are on the board....
    I'm taking Jaden Ivey. 3-guad lineup potentials.
     
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