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[WC First Round] (4)Dallas vs. (5)Utah

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Apr 15, 2022.

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(4)Dallas Mavericks vs. (5)Utah Jazz

Poll closed Apr 18, 2022.
  1. Mavs in 4

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  2. Mavs in 5

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  3. Mavs in 6

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  4. Mavs in 7

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  5. Jazz in 7

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  6. Jazz in 6

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  7. Jazz in 5

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  8. Jazz in 4

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  1. Phillyrocket

    Phillyrocket Member

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    I could easily see that. Jazz likely going to blow up the roster. Conley is getting old and slow, Gobert can’t guard the perimeter and his only offense is dunks, Mitchell never going to be a “bus driver”.

    If Luka had a legitimate second star with Dallas coaching and defense the Mavs would be a serious contender.
     
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  2. YOLO

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    He's not an established star as of yet but jalen brunson is breaking out at the right time. The rotation of him, luka, dinwiddie is giving fits. We know guard play is crucial this time of year and they have 3 guys clicking at the right time who fit and can play in any combination of the 3 on the floor
     
  3. steddinotayto

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    I think playing in the West could very well help Dallas advance to the conference finals. That Doncic/Brunson/Dinwiddie trio can score in bunches but they're defense is pretty suspect. Going up against Utah was a blessing in disguise because Mitchell/washed Conley/Bogdanovic are even worse on defense. Phoenix has Bridges but it's not like Booker or Paul (not anymore) are great defenders. If they manage to get past Phoenix it basically becomes race between Dallas and GSW to see who can get to 125 points first. Miami and Boston would have eaten Dinwiddie and Brunson up.
     
  4. J.R.

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    https://theathletic.com/3280861/2022/04/29/quin-snyder-jazz-future/

    This isn’t about Quin Snyder being on the hot seat.

    Eight years into his tenure as head coach of the Utah Jazz, and with one guaranteed season left on his contract in addition to a coach’s option for the 2023-24 campaign, the 55-year-old remains highly regarded by everyone from second-year owner Ryan Smith to first-year basketball CEO Danny Ainge to general manager Justin Zanik. The Jazz’s series-ending loss to Dallas in Game 6 of their first-round matchup on Thursday doesn’t change that, and sources say ownership and management do not see Snyder as part of the problem.

    Why, then, have we been talking about his possible departure from Utah for so many months now? Because it’s Snyder who must now decide how he feels about this Jazz experience and the prospect of continuing on this challenging path.

    Sources say Snyder has been unsure of what his coaching future might hold all season, and his plan has been to see how things ended and then reassess his own view of it all from there. In terms of what might come next, it appears nearly every scenario is on the table.

    He could be back with the Jazz, pursue a coaching job elsewhere or perhaps take a season off to re-energize and spend the kind of time with his family that is so hard to come by these days. In terms of a possible extension, sources say there were no discussions of a new deal during the season.

    As is almost always the case with decisions like these, there are a number of nuanced factors in play.

    There’s the obvious basketball component, with the Jazz’s inability to fulfill their own title-contending expectations taking its cumulative toll on all involved. For all the sustained success Utah has enjoyed, with six consecutive playoff appearances and more regular-season wins than all but Milwaukee and Toronto in that span, it failed to reach a conference finals and fell in the first round in three of the past four seasons.

    That sort of playoff pain comes at a cost for all involved, especially the coach who is widely known for his relentless and exhausting approach to his craft. Add in the locker-room dynamics that have been front and center for so long now, the discussion about Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert and whether they’ll ever truly mesh, and Snyder has found himself managing one of the league’s more sensitive situations for quite some time.

    Looking ahead, it’s safe to assume Snyder would like to know what the Jazz landscape might look like — on the court and off— at the start of next season as well. What’s the plan here? Is Gobert still anchoring their defense, or will he be traded this summer? Is Mitchell still on board as the franchise centerpiece, or might he force his way out via trade despite having three more guaranteed seasons on his deal?

    Who is truly in charge when it comes to the roster, and where does Snyder’s voice fit in when it comes to the type of team the Jazz want to keep building? After all, one could certainly argue Snyder has more sweat equity in this program than anyone.

    It has been less than five months since Smith hired Ainge to work with general manager Justin Zanik and 10 months since longtime Jazz executive Dennis Lindsey resigned. Sources say Ainge and Snyder have worked together well so far, but it’s clear there’s still a getting-to-know-you component here that continues to evolve.

    In his 18 years as the head of the Celtics’ front office, Ainge always took the kind of hands-on approach to team-building that required a healthy partnership with the coach. Zanik, meanwhile, is widely known to have a very good relationship with Snyder. Ditto for Snyder and Smith.

    Snyder’s view of the position itself will likely come into play as well. It would be one thing if Snyder saw himself as the Jazz’s modern-day version of Jerry Sloan, the legendary late coach who spent 23 seasons in this seat. But those who know Snyder best, and who saw him hold five jobs in five cities and two countries (the United States and Russia) from 2007 to 2014 after his seven-year head-coaching stay at Missouri, say that has never been the vision he’s had for this job.

    To hear Snyder reflect on this season Thursday night was to wonder what might come next for one of the league’s most respected coaches.

    “I’m incredibly proud of this team and the way we competed tonight,” Snyder said during his news conference. “The result speaks for itself, but it’s been a pleasure coaching this group.”

    Was the choice to go past tense some kind of sign that he was saying goodbye, or merely an acknowledgment that “this group” might be broken up in these next few months? Snyder himself may not know for sure just yet.
     
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  5. YOLO

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    oh phx is not utah for sure. Phx is actually a terrible matchup for Utah because they have so many bodies they can throw at their guards and Ayton isn't Gobert on the perimeter and hes actually an offensive threat. Nice 1st round by Dallas but it ends in this round. Booker and Paul aren't the negatives on defense that mitchell is
     
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    Yea Phoenix definitely has wings (Crowder, Bridges, Johnson, etc.) that they can just keep throwing at Dallas all series. It'll be interesting to see how Dallas responds to getting the boot. I think Brunson can be a solid 3rd option on a title team but man....if they pay him 1st/2nd option type of money I'm going to chuckle.
     
  7. YOLO

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    they're likely going to have to overpay if they want to keep him. with him being a ufa, and a lack of quality depth of free agents this summer he's going to have plenty of suitors. He was a very late 2nd rounder, the bag size is going to be crucial for a 25 year old at this point of his career for a multi year deal
     
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  8. Reeko

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    Utah Jazz from deep in the regular season: 2nd in makes, 2nd in attempts, and 11th in percentage

    Utah Jazz in the playoffs: dead last in makes, 13th in attempts, and dead last in percentage

    they went from shooting 40 threes a game, to barely 30 against Dallas…they just turn into a completely different team once the playoffs start

    seems like it happens every year…their offense goes to sh*t, and they get exposed defensively

    it used to be tough to win a game at Utah back in the day, but it’s no problem these days…Mavs didn’t even need Luka to get a win there

    the Jazz are a team full of chokers and guys who can’t play under pressure
     
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    Teams like NY, Portland, Washington, Sac getting the bags ready

     
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    Are you willing to max out Ayton if we could make the money work?
     
  12. hakeem94

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    imho 3 pt shooting is fools gold...in PO environment defenses tighten, and gameplan and run you off the 3pt line and /or its harder to hit because of tiredness...layups are harder to get by and whistles are silent, if youre not good in midrange your offense suffer...
     
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    not a fan of handing out max deals to guys who aren’t legit stars, but I’d take that over trading for Mitchell
     
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