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[2022 Draft/1-15] Kenyon Green, G, Texas A&M

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Apr 28, 2022.

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Do you like the selection of Kenyon Green?

Poll closed Apr 28, 2023.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. liveguy

    liveguy Member

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    100% agreed.

    Just think they messed up, but time will tell.
     
  2. Verbal Christ

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    With the injury concerns I'd guess we were bidding against ourselves for Stingley if you go by a compilation of mocks leading up to yesterday many had him at pick 10+. Lovie fell in love and now we play the statistics game and hope he doesnt have recurring foot injuries. When all things were equal and IMO Stingley and Sauce were close in skill why not go with the guy with the lesser of those concerns?

    I may have been more comfortable with Linderbaum long term over Green.
     
  3. zeeshan2

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  4. RunninRaven

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    Guy gonna be out there pass/run blocking like Gumby.

    My biggest concern here is that I saw one evaluation mention he is a flag magnet. That ain't good if he is already getting a lot of holding penalties and his competition will improve. But maybe that can be coached out of him.
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Like they've coached it out of Tunsil?
     
  6. RunninRaven

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    Tunsil doesn't have Gumby powers.
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    Does Green own a gasmask?
     
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  8. mikol13

    mikol13 Protector of the Realm
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    In Caserio we trust. Or maybe not?:D
     
  9. STR8Thugg

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    I like the pick bc he's actually a guard. We didn't take a tackle and plan to play games like putting him at guard for two years and then moving over to tackle. I'm tired of the stupid versatility games. Plug him in at guard, Howard at RT, and let's go mash.

    Now draft a RB to really make this pick worth it.
     
  10. J.R.

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    https://theathletic.com/3279948/202...en-versatile-lineman-bolsters-a-unit-in-flux/

    After finishing last in rushing efficiency each of the past two seasons, the Texans gave their offensive line some needed help at pick No. 15, when they made Texas A&M’s Kenyon Green the first interior offensive lineman off the board.

    Texans general manager Nick Caserio said throughout the pre-draft process that he was open to trading back from one of his two first-round picks. He ended up doing so with his latter Day 1 selection, trading back from No. 13 to No. 15 while also adding picks Nos. 124, 162 and 166.

    Big board ranking: Green ranks 27th on Dane Brugler’s big board. He’s Brugler’s second-ranked offensive guard, behind Boston College’s Zion Johnson. No other player at the position received a Round 1 grade from Brugler. Even Green got a Round 1/2 grade from Brugler.

    Introduction: Green is nothing if not versatile. In 2021, Green was the only FBS player to play at least 80 snaps at four different offensive line positions. He did it well enough to earn All-America honors for a second straight season.

    And the Aggies needed every bit of Green’s efforts as they trudged through an up-and-down season and were forced to play five different O-line combinations thanks to injuries and growing pains. There were few sure things on A&M’s front, except for Green, whom the Aggies could depend upon to excel weekly, despite an ailing knee that nagged him throughout the year (Fisher said Green rarely missed a practice for it). — Sam Khan Jr.

    How he fits: My first reaction to this pick: The Texans must have been jumped for the players they really wanted at 15, and this was the next best offensive player on their board. Houston could’ve used an explosive, yards-after-catch type at wide receiver for Davis Mills, but adding a player to protect the interior will serve as an OK consolation prize. Green is a high-floor type as a guard, so I hesitate to expect a star-level outcome. He’s capable of executing in a zone or gap running scheme, and he’s good enough in pass protection to hold up against league-average interior rushers from Day 1. — Diante Lee

    Second guess? Johnson, who went a couple of picks later to the Chargers, is the obvious other consideration here. He was not just Brugler’s higher-ranked guard, but also the higher-ranked guard on the consensus big board assembled by The Athletic’s Arif Hasan.

    There’s also a positional value conversation worth having here. FSU’s Jermaine Johnson and Purdue’s George Karlaftis — two players who received Round 1 grades from Brugler — were still available at No. 15, and the Texans had one of the worst pass rushes in the league last season. The Texans still have multiple picks in Rounds 2 and 3 to address that issue, though. Adding Green should improve some of the early-down running game failures that led to the Texans leading the NFL in three-and-out rate and tiring out their defense.

    Rookie impact: Given Green’s versatility, he should start somewhere for the Texans as a rookie. Guard seems most likely, though given the Texans picked him at No. 15, maybe they think he has tackle potential.

    Adding Green could allow the Texans to move 2019 first-round pick Tytus Howard back to right tackle from left guard, where he struggled last season. If Howard does indeed move back to tackle, A.J. Cann and Max Scharping are candidates to play the guard spot opposite Green.

    Depth-chart impact: The Texans chose to restructure left tackle Laremy Tunsil contract this offseason, effectively tying him to the team for the next two seasons. But otherwise, this is a unit in flux, filled with short-term free agents and Texans draftees who might not receive second contracts from Houston. Drafting Green doesn’t displace anyone so much as fill a void.

    Fast evaluation: The Texans desperately needed offensive line help, and Green should be a plug-and-play starter for Houston. That might not have been the case had the Texans instead used this pick on a second-tier offensive tackle. But the 15th pick might prove to be a bit rich for a guard, especially when that guard is not the consensus top player at the position.
     
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  11. J.R.

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    https://theathletic.com/3261384/2022/04/28/kenyon-green-houston-texans/

    Last season, Texas A&M head coach Jimbo Fisher needed someone to play right tackle, so he asked Kenyon Green.

    Then he needed someone to play right guard. So he asked Kenyon Green.

    When Alabama came to town and Fisher needed a starting left tackle, he asked Kenyon Green.

    Lastly, he needed someone to play left guard and, well, you can probably figure out who Fisher asked to do it.

    “Kenyon’s a throwback,” Fisher told The Athletic. “He’s a 1980s, 1970s player. I’m saying, ‘Kenyon, play right guard.’ ‘Yes sir.’ ‘Play left guard.’ ‘Yes sir.’ ‘Play left tackle.’ He never had an issue.”

    Green, who was selected No. 15 overall in the first round of the 2022 NFL Draft by the Houston Texans, is nothing if not versatile. In 2021, Green was the only FBS player to play at least 80 snaps at four different offensive line positions. He did it well enough to earn All-America honors for a second straight season.

    And the Aggies needed every bit of Green’s efforts as they trudged through an up-and-down season and were forced to play five different O-line combinations thanks to injuries and growing pains. There were few sure things on A&M’s front, except for Green, whom the Aggies could depend upon to excel weekly, despite an ailing knee that nagged him throughout the year (Fisher said Green rarely missed a practice for it).

    Green said at his pro day that NFL teams discussed using him in various ways. He even did some center work, which he also practiced at A&M though the Aggies never had to start him there.

    “Being able to play everything, you help your team out in any form or fashion,” Green said. “Having that in your toolbox can really help you.”

    Though he proved to be versatile, the majority of Green’s A&M years were spent at guard, which Fisher believes is his best NFL fit. His combination of strength, intelligence and athleticism allows him to be a force in the run game while being a more-than-capable pass blocker against today’s elite interior pass rushers.

    “I think he’s gonna play for a long time and make a lot of money,” Fisher said.

    Dane Brugler on Kenyon Green (No. 2 OG, No. 27 overall prospect in The Beast)

    Green must fix the bad habits and penalties at the next level, but he does a great job staying balanced before and after contact with the mobility and brawling mentality to win his matchups. He should establish himself as a dependable starting guard early in his NFL career.

    Superlative

    Green is as dependable as they come. He established himself as a Day 1 starter — not an easy feat on the line of scrimmage in the Southeastern Conference — and never looked back. He started all 35 games Texas A&M played in his career and was consistent on both the practice field and on fall Saturdays. The two-time All-American logged 2,175 snaps in his three-year career, according to Pro Football Focus.

    Coachspeak

    “He had no goals except whatever the team goals were and that he wanted to be a great player,” Fisher said. “Some guys want to be a great player for themselves, which there is nothing wrong with. But some want to be a great player for themselves but also in how it helps a team, and Kenyon had a true understanding and demand for that from himself.”

    What you may have missed

    Green comes from a high school program that has consistently produced high-end offensive linemen in recent years. Atascocita (Texas) High, which is just northeast of Houston, produced Washington Commanders offensive tackle Samuel Cosmi in the 2017 recruiting class (he signed with Texas and was a second-round pick in the 2021 NFL Draft), Green — a five-star recruit and No. 1 player in talent-rich Texas — in the 2019 class and 2022 four-star recruit Kam Dewberry, a national top-100 prospect who signed with Texas A&M. Green played with both Cosmi and Dewberry.

    Atascocita has a high school sophomore, 2024 interior offensive line prospect Nate Kibble, who already has multiple scholarship offers, including one from Texas.
     
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  12. Buck Turgidson

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    NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND

    :)
     
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  13. DaDakota

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    Good pick.

    DD
     
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  14. PatBev

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    My cowboys fan roommates were really butt hurt about this pick
     
  15. zeeshan2

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    This is so stupid; both of those guys went at the end of the first. Why are the Texans just getting flak for not taking them?
     
  16. Fulgore

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    Love it lol
     
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    Bob McGinn, a decades-long beat writer for the Packers who now types for something called “Go Long,” has revived his twice-yearly tradition of breaking down the best players at each position before the draft — using the comments of unnamed NFL suits and scouts.

    Sometimes his sources prop up the player big time. Others will tear the guy apart. It’s an informative read.
    In his breakdown of offensive linemen, McGinn has Green ranked as his No. 1 guard in Thursday’s draft.

    https://www.golongtd.com/p/part-2-ol-trevor-penning-total-prick?s=r


     
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  18. Roc Paint

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    He looks mean as hell and I love it
     
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  19. cmoak1982

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    Being compared to Larry Allen is a very good thing
     
  20. Landry's Tooth

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    I believe the issue with sauce is scheme. He isn't a zone guy while Stingley has shown he can play in multiple schemes...
     

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