A big that is a lethal shooter and defends multiple positions will always be extremely in demand. Ryan Anderson carved out a pretty good career despite being glued to the ground and a defensive liability. Smith will have major, major gravity, and he's athletic enough to be a good PnR option. Unless his shooting really falls off for some reason, there is very little chance he's not a major player. I agree he seems to have the most visible ceiling preventing him from being an impact scorer, but he has the safest floor of the group, and I don't think it's close. If Smith is healthy and not a top 50-75 player in a few years I will be shocked.
1st it’s too weak and skinny or even shoulder size and high ass with Mobley as to why he was supposed to get dominated in the NBA…that didn’t work, so now it’s BMI lol
I never thought Mobley was too skinny or didn't have a good body for the NBA... I'm not sure what you're referring to with this post.
BMI was the objective metric in response to the comps you willingly gave though. BMI does a better job describing if a player is skinny than weight does. I don't want to spend a whole lot of time on this cause I do think there's a place in the league for Chet and believe he has the highest upside in the draft, but he is objectively skinnier than all comps for players yall are mentioning with exception to maybe Durant, who there is truly one Durant in the history of the game. Chet will never be Durant. He doesn't play like Durant. So, mentioning Durant is an immediate sign showing a misunderstanding of why his frame is an issue. I took 1 min and found a compiled list of players BMI for the 2021 season (couldn't find 2022 and didn't care to dig in anymore) and he'd have the second lowest BMI in the league. Being classified as "overweight" doesn't mean much for athletes due to their muscle mass, but if you're 9 pounds away from being medically described as underweight that says something when your best attribute is protecting the rim and playing defense. That's also assuming draftexpress has the correct height/Weight. My view was from an eye test first and foremost All in all, I don't care that much and I've spent too much time for a player I think has a lot of upside. I just think his frame is more of a concern than any of these analogies.
I wasn't comparing skills either just their arms. Side note: That collage took more time to put together that I care to admit. Finding pictures of them in similar poses, cropping out background...etc.
You can't make a comparison of Durant and simply ignore skills though haha. It's actually a huge component of my argument. Chet is coming into the league as a game changing defensive player with OK gaurd skills and a nice touch. Durant came in more as a wing with a "score at will" potential. Different demands for their frames I know this is going to piss people off or confuse them, but if it means anything from what verrrrrry little video I've seen I think Victor W will be a star. He looks skinny too but will add value in places Holmgren won't
If the rockets get chet, and he turns into shawn bradley, there will be some disruption here on clutch fans. Thats about time i go hide for some time until the next draft lol.
Way to avoid context here. Being bullied is just a part of the argument. The bigger concern has always been sustainability and injuries. Giannis came in and started off as a SMALL FORWARD and only started transitioning to a big after filling out. AD on the other hand has been injury prone his ENTIRE career. Mobley is a rookie and one on a good team so it’s way too early to make calls on him.
way to avoid KG as part of your argument except calls were being made on Mobley just last summer before his career even started…convenient it wasn’t too early then when he was supposed to get bullied for years as he started his career you’d swear it’s the 90’s and there’s a Shaq on every team
Out of the listed players I've seen I'll say Keegan Murray will be the most likely to be drafted too high. He's 6'8" and not an elite athlete, nor is he a great passer or ballhandler. It's hard to see his main strength, post scoring, translating perfectly to the next level. He looks like a PF only to me, but people say he can play 3-5. He'll also be 22 before his rookie season starts. Jabari Smith has some of the same weaknesses but is taller, a much better shooter, and three years younger. I'm sure Murray can be a solid pro, but possible top 5 pick? That's just too high for me.
Naw, Chet'll be fine. The fact that he's leading the poll over Sharpe, really make me question our user base. If the other none Chet guys bust, will people return here for an apology?
I only say Chet, not because I don't think his skills will translate, he seems like a smart kid... but I'm not sure how much weight he'll be able to put on that frame. It wasn't a problem for KD because he's mostly facing forwards and swingmen but not sure if Chet has that kind of fluidness. His interior defensive prowess maybe diminished if he can't compete against bigger and stronger guys in the paint. All this being said, even though I'm a Jabari guy, I'm VERY intrigued about his prospect and can easily say he may have the highest ceiling if everything goes right for him.
I'm not completely sold on Chet, but I don't think he'll be a Bradley and wallow in vanilla Bradley-ness. There are questions about Chet but none about his competitiveness, love of bball, and drive.
https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/biggest-bust-potential.315637/page-4#post-14068781 I didn’t mention him because I have already mentioned him in a previous post of mine when saying there are exceptions.
Sharpe probably would have been the 13 or 14 pick at best in the 2021 NBA draft. He might go at 5 in this relatively shallow draft.
I doubt that Chet will be Bradley as Bradley never had to shoot from beyond the arc. Worst case a 3 and help D guy with some passing ability. Well, realized it does sound bad for a 7 fter.
@D-rock shared this: skip to ~8:15 Dude is talking about how Holmgren falls over a lot. Core weakness, slow change of direction, the perimeter will be hell etc.... I'm thinking wtf, I don't want to see this, the paint will be hell too. We see how the NBA treats rookies he will stay in foul trouble. Big positive is Chet doesn't back down in physical games.
Chet will fall out of top five once analyzed by the teams. Fans don’t know anything other than what ESPN hypes….just like Malik Willis who was supposed to go top ten and once analyzed dropped to almost the 4th round. Chet has skill but doesn’t have an NBA body. Just like others who are great players but too short to play in the NBA like that Clemons guy we had. I repeat…..a toothpick has never averaged more than 15 points in the NBA.
When he plays against the best athletes in the world, his frame will cause him to foul frequently like he did in his last NCAA game against stronger athletes. He is still a lottery pick, but not as good as Jabrari who is just 2 inches shorter but has a much more durable and muscular frame.
KD was never built like a bobble head, Mobley never had baby shoulders and none of these guys were as skinny as Holmgren. You are really reaching here.
