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Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Jan 6, 2021.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Next time someone tries to claim it was a tour gone awry, or trespassing, and complain that people are being held in jails unfairly...

     
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    Donald Trump should be tried as a traitor and if found guilty, face a firing squad.

    We need to deal with treason harshly, and IMHO, he is as treasonous as they come.

    DD
     
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    Handling this as a bottom up type of prosecution is maybe not the best tactic. Gumming up our entire justice department on charges like trespassing while giving the people who organized a literal coup years to get rid of evidence, secure political favors, and mount a defense is likely to be proven as problematic to Justice.

    What Garland should have done is appointed a special counsel a year ago to handle just the conspiracy part of this investigation, and have access to testimony, docs, evidence, from all lower level cases that are relevant. That way so much time doesn't pass before you get to even taking a look at who was pulling the strings. I mean it was obvious from day 1 that Roger Stone and Steve Bannon were the two who needed to be the intense focus of their own prosecutorial team. The fact that those two guys are still walking around scott free tells you everything you need to know about how this DOJ operates.
     
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    Justice won't be served until the planners and leaders of the coup are all charged and convicted.
     
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    Garland appears to be relying upon the Jan. 6th committee to do the work. I understand these cases are difficult and politically sensitive but Garland the Biden Admin. as a whole seem very reluctant to prosecute members of the previous Admin. I get it they don't want to be setting the precedent of using the DOJ to go after political opponents but this was an unprecedented situation and required an unprecedented response.
     
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    Biden’s leak about “ponderous” Garland is a small tell that maybe they believe they chose the wrong man for the job given the circumstance. Mostly cause he’s one of these dinosaurs of DC that feels like he has a lifetime to let things just sort of happen by the book.

    If this was the other way around the Republicans would have at least acted in a way that tied the hands of the next president and AG so a prosecution couldn’t be undone. Garland seems to have a failure of imagination about what Trump will do the day he takes office again if that happens. The failure to at least have Bannon, Stone, etc. in some level of prosecution with the courts right now is a major failure. Because a bottom up approach is going to take years and we know Trump will just issue blanket pardons on day 1. So you’ve gotta focus on the organizers first because otherwise they’ll be pardoned before they ever have to even get to a trial.
     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    The ease with which trump and his people will lie...

     
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    Why doesn't it surprise me that Don JR's big concern was preserving Daddy's legacy? As if he had one to begin with. I guess the President who told 30,000 lies while in office. LMAO.
     
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    LOL...

    Scalise and Gaetz meet privately after tension over leaked audio
    “I said: ‘I'm sorry if this caused you problems,’” the Louisiana Republican told POLITICO after the sitdown with the Florida firebrand.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...tely-after-tension-over-leaked-audio-00028344
     
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    Looks like a normal tour to me.

    Still amazed these people weren't shot dead.
     
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    Second Jan. 6 Defendant Pleads Guilty to Seditious Conspiracy
    Georgia man pleads guilty in the most serious case the Justice Department has brought to date related to the Jan. 6 Capitol attack

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/second...acy-11651256027?mod=lead_feature_below_a_pos1

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    A Georgia man Friday pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy, admitting he conspired to stop President Biden from taking office through force in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

    Brian Ulrich, 44 years old, is the second Jan. 6 defendant to plead guilty to seditious conspiracy in the most serious case the Justice Department has brought to date related to the riot at the U.S. Capitol by supporters of former President Donald Trump.

    Mr. Ulrich, appearing virtually at a hearing Friday in federal district court in Washington, D.C., also pleaded guilty to the charge of obstructing an official proceeding. He agreed to cooperate with prosecutors, and a federal judge said that Mr. Ulrich faces a possible sentence of roughly between five and six-and-a-half years, though that could change.
    more at the link

     
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    They should have been, somehow kids in schools get shot, yet these traitors don't.......I am shocked that the police did not start shooting. The police were in danger....

    DD
     
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    It easily could have gone that way. One person did get shot, remember, but it could have been a mass casualty event. But, I'm very thankful it was not. If you think the aftermath of Jan 6 now is hard on the country, imagine how rending this would be had capitol police opened fire. I think they did the hard and brave thing by not using lethal force and we're better off for it.
     
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    Are we better for it?

    This fun little "overthrow the government" thing still seems to be an active project for the domestic terrorists that is now the Republican Party.

    If 100 of the these cultists were shot dead on January 6th, we might have actually had some of the accountability that was needed and put a stop to this. Right now, the collapse of democracy seems inevitable.
     
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