1899, iirc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Wars It was a ~300 year process. Just for comparison's sake, and I'm not making any extra judgements or value comparisons: There were ~60M Native Americans in the Western Hemishphere at the time of European Colonization. There were ~13M Africans shipped here over the same time period. How did we get on the subject again?
...don't look at me. ...I just took the first covered spot I could find from the p!ssing match going on here... ...(pgabriel's landed some big shots...Sweet Lou's ahead on points, near as I can figure...styles make fights, you know. If I were them, though, I wouldn't let this get to the cards...you know how judges can be)...
Thanks and thanks for the correction on the crime statistics, it didn't make sense but I just kept going assuming one of those numbers was Hispanic. I wonder why the crime stats are like that. The stats are provided to the FBI from all the law enforcement agencies. One issue although it Weems statistically insignificant is are all the agencies providing the information. The federal government classifies Hispanics as a group,. Don't let some Republicans know Hispanics are classified as white in those statistics. It would cause some of their heads to explode
When I was about 21 my friend and I met 3 Native American girls at a hotel. They were from North Dakota and were in Houston celebrating high school graduation. We told them we would hook up and go to Astroworld. When time came I didn't answer my friend's call, I didn't want to go but handled it poorly. My friend went. He is still a more solid guy. I still feel a little ashamed when thinking about it.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...der-wave-fell-most-heavily-on-young-black-men Homicide Is Pandemic’s Biggest Killer of Young Black Men It isn't exactly news that young Black men run a much higher risk of being murdered than the rest of us. It also isn’t exactly a mystery who’s killing them. Data on who commits homicides is for obvious reasons less complete than data on victims, and “clearance rates” — the percentage of crimes that are solved — were especially low for homicides in 2020. But the information that is available indicates that young Black men are the main killers of young Black men. This is neighborhood gun violence, for the most part. @JayGoogle
It's too early in the morning for me to start talking about black on black crime. Good read though...
Don't know what you tagging me for, we've literally said all we're going to say on this subject, this data doesn't say anything new or contradict anything I've said before about this subject.
The women sure are more in danger of violence though. https://www.indian-affairs.org/indigenous-peoples-and-violence.html#:~:text=American Indians and Alaska Natives,experienced violence in their lifetime.
Your 1% stupidity is stupidity. The black murder rate would by itself would be one of the worst and excluding blacks the United States would not be one of the worst in the world
That's comparing all other races combined. Not comparing Native Americans to Blacks The issue of violence against Native American women is another subject that I was unaware of
Talk about stupid points lol. The United States doesn't have a top 10 murder rate in the world...or top 20...or top 30... Only stupid because you missed the point entirely...the point is there is no 'cultural' issue, to say so is downright stupidity. There are local issues in certain areas of the country. That's it, that's all. 1% of black people commit these crimes, why? Because criminality is rare in the first place and also because it is localized in problem areas. If it were a culture issue, as you assume, then it would not just be most in one area. For example, do you know how many of those killings were in Chicago? It's Murder rate is silly, it's the main reason why the black murder rate is that high...but you're comparing the culture of Chicago to rural black folks around the country or or sububran black folks around the country as if all black people have the same 'culture' how idiotic. You are making the classic mistake of mistaking your causation with correlation with you thinking some imagined 'black culture' is the issue. At the end of the day, you don't really care about this, as proven time and time again. You do nothing about it yourself but rant on the internet about how black people suck and how hispanics are much better, so much so you ignored the part in your article about the hispanic murder rate also rising during the pandemic...could it be that murder rates in general rose during the pandemic for other reasons, was that to do with culture?
You're right, the United States is ranked 55tth. I was looking at a site that had the US in the top 10 when this thread first appeared and I looked at other sites to verify that Because it didn't seem right and now I have correct numbers That being said the black murder rate which is an inner city issue is still unacceptable. It's not about poverty, it's deeper
My whole point is this...black culture is not a monolith. There is certainly something going on in Chicago that isn't going on in other black communities. If your point was "There is something wrong with Chicago's culture" or kept it at that, I'd 100% agree with you. Even if you said "There is something wrong with black culture in Chicago." can't disagree, the numbers speak for themselves...and in other problem cities like IIRC New Orleans is another where it is high...but nothing right now is as bad as Chicago. But any idea that seems to paint millions of people in one brush...I can't agree with that.
The per capita murder rate in Chicago is like 28th among US cities. St. Louis has about 3.5 times the per capita murder rate of Chicago. 1. St. Louis, Missouri - Highest murder rates in the U.S. - The most deadly cities (cbsnews.com)
@JayGoogle I bumped this thread because I suspected the rise in violent crime during the pandemic has been even more of a young Black male problem than the violence we have been seeing in the last 20 years. I finally got some evidence of this Violence has decreased dramatically since the height of the late 80's early 90's crack epidemic but has started to uptick. You mentioned Chicago, that violence was already increasing before the pandemic. There is something not right, it's getting worse regardless of the pandemic that we as black people need to figure out
