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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. Aleron

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    The death toll and destruction is being way oversold, the french have them around 8-9k, the uk has them at 15k, and the french have the best history *by far* on this, their biggest weakness militarily is that they are have a poor history trusting their middle ranked officers, which is why they have such high ranking members on the field so close to the action (the general staff are never there though, in fact its illegal for them to leave russia unless accompanied by one of 3 government officials), i'm not sure there's a way that would ever change, it's been a thing with them for centuries, good scope for promotion though, lol.

    The geopolitical stuff, i'm not quite sure what to make of it yet, it looks like we're gearing up for a new cold war, globalism is definitely dead, and if the main players are who they look like they will be on their side, China, Russia and India (who will side with Russia over other nations), its one their side likely wins.
     
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    India will never be on the same side as China. India is more of a neutral country on the larger stage but locally sees Pakistan and China as its enemies. Russia is an ally as it has supplied most of its military hardware and India needs that relationship (as does Russia).

    I don't think China will now tie its boat to Russia after what has transpired.
     
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    India is sort of the Elon of countries where one should be careful ever thinking he is on your side. India is gonna India. I think they look at China in the same way that Elon looks at the American right.

    On China I think they are doing everything they can to make Russia forever reliant on China. Essentially be what Panama and Costa Rica are to the United States. I think they’d love to see Russia fall in a way that makes them a true vassal state to China where Russias military is so weak that they will have to rely on China is they are attacked. They cannot tell that to Putin obviously but they certainly are showing pretty clearly that they’ll allow him to destroy the Russian military and then at the same time say they are on their team.
     
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  5. DaDakota

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    India is a weird country, they still have a cast system there, you can have the most beautiful structure next to a garbage dump they are WAY overpopulated and more like a 3rd world country than not.

    DD
     
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    They have far too many young kids sleeping on the streets.
     
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  7. MojoMan

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    There are not two sides here. Trying to reduce this situation to a sports-type us versus them, two-player game theory framework is certainly tempting, but it is just not the situation that exists here. Not even close.

    Also, it sadly still needs to be observed that the "great reset" has not been successful up to this point, and the hopes of some that the human-engineered coronavirus would be sufficiently devastating to humanity to justify the establishment of a centralized globalist regime (ruled by North Atlantic leaders, as anticipated by the Klaus Schwab and the people associated with the WEF) have not come to fruition. Quite a few of these folks appear to be in a state of denial and/or intellectual shock around this point.

    No, what we have is a multi-polar world, with many different NATIONS all pursing their own interests, some currently allied with certain other nations, but with those arrangements constantly evolving and changing over time, just like has been the norm for the last several thousand years. Meanwhile, the US is getting weaker, not stronger, especially with the destructive incompetence being practiced by the current regime in Washington DC.

    India is just watching out for themselves. It makes sense for them and every other country that has any sense to try to establish and maintain the best relations with every other nation on earth that they possibly can. If you look at it through this lens, you can see clearly that this is what India is trying to do, without any particular deference to the globalist aspirations of the North Atlantic elites or the CCP. India is just going about their business in the way that makes the best sense for them right now. It is just about as simple as that.
     
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  8. NewRoxFan

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  9. DaDakota

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    I was over there for a company I worked for, and I went to wash out my water bottle an got admonished by the studio manager, that it was someone else's job to do that.....and I was like.....I can wash my own water bottle...and he was adamant that it had to be this guy......so I let him....

    He was like....you are an executive these guys are here to serve us......

    And I left the company within 3 months.....

    Jaipur was pretty though, mostly.

    RAND PAUL is wrong, those were NOT part of Russia they were part of the USSR, ill gotten gains after WW2......god someone needs to clean up the Senate.

    DD
     
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    Unfortunately, you are taking away those people's job as menial as it is. That is what happens when you have a billion people and education isn't free. Social mobility ends up sucking. Rich people don't want social mobility because who would wash their clothes and cook their food.

    I don't think you can ever get rid of classes, but society is better when there is social mobility and we give the smartest and hardest working people an opportunity to succeed and do the hardest and smartest jobs. If the only thing they are capable of is washing bottles after given the opportunity, I'm good with that. Everyone has their place.
     
  11. superfob

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    Alaska was part of Russia too.... hmmm
     
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  12. JuanValdez

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    Anything smart you may have said in that post completely undermined by this tangential allusion to a secret cabal manufacturing a global pandemic to somehow take over the world.
     
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  13. NewRoxFan

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    We were part of the British empire. Does rand want us to go back? Heck... russia was part of the ussr... hmmm :cool:
     
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  14. MojoMan

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    The engineering of the coronavirus by the Chinese in Wuhan, in cooperation with and with funding by our NIH under the leadership of Dr. Fauci, is not a secret. The "Build Back Better" agenda - coordinated, promoted and sponsored by the WEF under Klaus Schwab - was openly embraced by countries around the world, obviously including the USA.under the current regime in Washington. This was an agenda, designed in advance, as a response to a devastating medical crisis, the likes of which none of us has ever seen, except on television medical science fiction dramas.

    The cabal is not secret. We know who these people are. The WEF maintains a website that you can go to and see their videos about all of this, right now if you like. Of course the part where our government has worked to implement the "Build Back Better" agenda, despite no such devastation having actually occurred, is something that you know very well about. You were complaining just yesterday here in this very forum about Joe Manchin and his intransigence in passing this and a few other pieces of extreme radical left legislation that would have gone a long ways towards enabling the implementation of this agenda. So don't you dare try to pretend that you are unaware of this.

    To be fair, it is not clear that the release of the virus in Wuhan was intentional. However, it is not altogether clear that it was not intentional, either. We may never know.

    However, once the virus was out, the major players and the press went all-in to promote the most radical, despicable, aggressively misleading and oppressive propaganda campaign around this that the world has ever seen. The lockdowns, the mandates, the experimental inoculations, the people being fired from their jobs for refusing to participate in this tyrannically implemented and fear motivated agenda was beyond surreal. And all of the lies by the so-called scientists, doctors and the government establishment agencies, not to mention other government leaders and the press. The trust for these people and these groups from any independently thinking, semi-intelligent person is just plain gone as a result.

    Even if it was not planned to release the virus, or even if it was and the vast majority of these people had no idea about any of that, they leveraged this whole exercise in way that was clearly intended to maximize the domination and control of governments at the highest possible level. And that is clearly the case whether it conforms to your preferred "narrative" or not. As a demonstration of how devoted these people continue to be towards this end, the current regime in Washington has appealed the reversal of the airline mask mandate. Clearly, they will not let it go.

    It is hard to see how they recapture the level of panic and mass-submissiveness that they achieved in 2020-2021, regardless of what sort of new disaster happens to come next. Clearly, the Russian invasion of Ukraine is not working to that end, and will not, unless they escalate this into a direct confrontation between Russia and NATO, which a significant number of them openly are trying to do. But hopefully, they will fail at that too.

    Is there a truly epic disaster getting ready to happen? They seem to think that they will need one to justify their "Build Back Better" scheme in connection with their plan for "The Great Reset". But it has not and is not happening yet.
     
  15. No Worries

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    Moldova is next.

     
  16. DaDakota

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    Manchin says:

    Key US senator says he expects the US will "get further pulled in" to the war against Russia: Sen. Joe Manchin, a Democrat from West Virginia who is a moderate and key swing vote in the Senate, predicted the United States will get further pulled into the war against Russia and said, "We're going to have more troops involved. We're going to be involved. It could be engagements." Manchin added: "As soon as they reach over that line and hit our supply lines coming in from Poland and different NATO countries, we've got to move because we have to defend NATO." The senator said that "we're all in on this one. And I think we're going to get further pulled in than we'd like, but we've got to now, you cannot stop and not support these people and stop Russia there" and noted that "I think that we could be pulled in. I absolutely do ... I hope we don't. I'm praying to God we don't but you can't leave anything off the table." Asked whether the US should be prepared for that, Manchin said, "Well I would hope that we're prepared for that. I mean, we have the ability, and we have a military, and it's unbelievable what we can do."

    https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-04-26-22/index.html

    Looks like we might be going to war with Russia.

    DD
     
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  17. MojoMan

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    This is potentially some very scary stuff. These people - supposedly our people - have truly lost their minds.
     
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    SHHHH He might start suspecting you as member of the secret cabal too.

    We can't get the word out until our plans are complete with over 80% domination.
     
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