Woke National Review upset that Star Trek made Stacey Abrams "President of Earth"

I have not made it around to the show but have read all of the books...the writers are VERY woke.

Their Twitter is SUPER political and they are unapologetic about it.

Here is a great interview about the writers...
https://www.geekwire.com/2018/expanse-co-author-daniel-abraham/
Key parts...

So, I don't know how good the show is but the books are fantastic so I'm sure the show is great but yeah, the writers are definitely 'woke' and The Expanse hits on a lot of issues other 'woke' shows do. They just present it better is all. It feels less preachy and is wrapped into a fictional universe that makes sense.

 

In the same vein.

 

Since this is one of my favorite shows and in my opinion far and away the best Star Trek series. This is some scenes showing how to be woke in sci-fi while still being entertaining.
DS9 Episode Far Beyond the Stars, taking on racial issues on Earth directly.


DS9 Duet, dealing with PTSD, survivor guilt and racism.


DS9 Once More Unto the Breach, dealing with Ageism.

 

OG
Klingons don’t play no games

 

White men with small penises cannot handle diversity. Those are the ones using "woke" and can STAND Star Trek being diverse. Star Trek is just fine. Discovery, Picard, Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Prodigy. There are at least 3 other series in the works at Paramount+, plus a new movie in the Kelvin timeline (with Chris Pine as Kirk).

 

Star Trak has always been super political.

 

that can't be politically correct

 

Knee jerk much? Picard has been a slow moving wreck where you hope they break the budget in the last two eps. They made him a 80+ yr old robot who still has mommy daddy issues and can't turn it off with a switch. Picard isn't carrying anything, if only in name. I get it, he's old and can cash it in.

If my ultrapale floppy micro **** can help you swallow awful writing, by all means.
::Ultrapale floppy micro cocks wave at your direction whenever your favorite franchises are cticicized::

 

No, Picard was never going to what some fanboys thought it was going to be. 80 year lead was never going to be some action-packed show, always onboard a starship.

 

Picard is not getting great reviews, mostly hovering around a mediocre 6. If the writing and direction isn't for reviewers or "fanboys", I'm still wondering who "it's for" other than the trash heap.

Just like DC/Warner, Paramount and its lackies gotta stop milking licenses and hope something new spings from its ashes. I already posted why Discovery is dry heave inducing.

I can't really say anything has been added for Picard that wasn't already planted by the older Treks, other than him being a robot who still has a weakness for human character flaws (great believable sci!). I doubt their showrunners care or remember what happened the season before.

 

Discovery is a good show. Not for everyone. Strange New Worlds will shut the fanboys up because it will be the most like the TOS and TNG. What I want to see is another DS9 show. The Last 4 season of DS9 was the BEST seasons EVER produced for Star Trek. The goal was never to produced the same shows that have been done before and fanboys need to understand that.

It is like Halo. The Halo TV show is world building for people who never played the game. Same characters, different time line. It was never going to be a one for one reproduction of the games. That show is finding it's legs. They were never going to keep the Spartan helmets on. That works for the Mandalorian because his creed is to keep his Helmet on. The last episode for Halo was it is best yet and quieted the fanboys because of the last 10-15 mins.

 

The show looks so good visually. Star Trek has never had the sort of budget Alex Kurtzman has. Too bad he is a moron that can't write a story to save his life.

 

LOL, yeah right.

 

This is the only example non-trek fans have and they always point to it. They never seem to mention Kirk was disgusted by the kiss despite kissing women of virtually every other color constantly. Trek wasn't woke. Old Trek just did what all sci-fi does and put social issues out of context of our world and into a different context.

 

Star Trek 2 wrath of khan is better than every streaming new Star Trek series on paramount and cbs in the last 5 years

 

Yep, still woke. For every culturally insensitive moment in trek there were other 9 'woke' moments. Also, the dude that thought of those 'aliens' was fired by Gene and that was known as one of the worst Trek episodes ever. Talk about an outlier. According to Wheaton and someone else on the show around the time, another producer or something, Gene didn't like the portrayal and Wheaton said the then producer was racist and so Gene fired him. So still very woke, sorry.

He (kirk) was disgusted by the kiss because...
1.) The Network didn't want the kiss to take place, Shatner and Gene DGAF and wanted the kiss to take place.
2.) So they had to think of some roundabout way to have the kiss happen, hence the hypnosis.

So you're forgetting the context that Gene REALLY wanted the kiss to take place to prove a point. A lot of Gene trek was very on the nose about the political points it wanted to make.

Trek was woke, Gene was super woke, DS9 and TNG were wokey woke. LOL that you think that kiss is the only example of it. Trek was making progressive points every other episode. Roddenberry was someone that saw socialism as an utopian concept, completely rejected religion, and saw himself as a humanist.

LOL @ The kiss being the 'ONLY' example. Unreal.

 

The person that wrote it, Katharyn Powers (dfon't misgender) wasn't fired at all.

The director was fired for treating the staff poorly, not the episode. In fact the replacement directed most of the episode. Gene wasn't woke, he was buddies with L R Hubbard and a drunk. When TNG came along his job was to be there to legitimize a non Kirk Trek. He never had any balls to fire anyone. He had Leonard Maizlish do it.

Name 9 other woke examples. The kiss is the only freaking examples I see by pretend fans.

 

The kiss is the most obvious one and as noted it was set up as Kirk and Uhura being possesed by aliens to get around network censors. This is pretty well known.
Some other examples of "wokeness"
1. Having a black woman as a bridge officer named Uhura.
2. Having an alien as first officer. This was resisted initially by the network and there is an infamous test shot of Nimoy without the ears and makeup. Roddenberry insisted on keeping Spock on to make a point of diversity.
3. The original pilot "The Cage" not only had Spock as a junior bridge officer but the second in command was a woman. Majel Barrett who later became Nurse Chapel and later Gene Roddenberry's wife.
4. Sulu and Chekov as bridge officers. At the time with the US at war in Vietnam and having not that long ago fought in Korea and against Japan to have an Asian officer. Then with the Cold War in full swing a Russian officer.
5. In the episode "The Ultimate Computer" making the most brilliant computer scientist (Dr. Richard Daystrom) a black man.
6. The episode "Let this be Your Last Battlefield" Was a very direct critique of racism where a species where half the population was black on the right side and white on the left side and the other side the reverse fought a genocidal war that wiped out both.
7. The episode "The Day of the Dove" took on the push for war and even mocked Kirk as being against peace that was forced on the Federation and Klingons.
8. The episode "The Doomsday Machine" was a metaphor about futility of mutually assured destruction.
9. The episode "The Cloud Minders" was a commentary on class struggle where the wealthy elite literally floated above the poor workers.
10. The episode "The Way to Eden" had space hippies.

 

1. Who does nothing in the show but talk on the phone.
2. An alien in a scifi show, how woke
3. The original pilot the cage dialogue. "I can’t get used to having a woman on the bridge.”
4. The violent black guy that showed up on the enterprise as the bad guy to test his computer which failed because his violent personality was in it. (through "engrams" BTW which is Scientology BS)


Some of your examples are either doing what all sci fi does, comment on society through a different lens. Some of them are great examples of racism/sexism in star trek. So thanks for that.


How about in Turnabout Instruder when a scientist switched bodies with Kirk so she could have the opportunity to command a starship. This goes against your argument which seems to suggest the "Star Trek universe" was an open society. In the same episode kirk, having only been in a womens body for a few hours, was thinking how he didn't really want to be in command anymore. Because that's how woman think amirite? This kills that the writers were not sexist.