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Would DaDakota ever fight in a war he advocated for?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by LosPollosHermanos, Apr 23, 2022.

  1. fchowd0311

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    Reagan and his predecessors have used Red Scare tactics to justify how many fascist dictators in regions like South America? How many coup d'etats of democratically elected regimes? How many invasions and decade long wars and conflicts( Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea etc)?

    Horrible take.

    Talk about not caring about the lives of nonwhite people in non-western nations...
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Dang, See what I miss when I have people on ignore?

    The point has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the geopolitical alignment of the world.

    1. There is an actual ARMY to fight in the Ukraine right now - they are committing genocide.
    2. Afghanistan is a civil war - we just left there - there is no war there to go in for....

    While all life is certainly equal - all wars are not......

    Russia will need to be dealt with or it will infect the rest of the world - and others like China will want to follow suit, this is democracy on the line against Autocracy...now I get that some with an agenda want to make it about race - so they can be the monkeys that they are and fling their poo.

    But this is all about the world order, and stopping genocide.......

    As for whether I would fight in a war - well, let's just say, I would not be seeking fake Bone Spur diagnosis to avoid it, and I think it is a question that everyone should ask themselves.....I am NOT in favor of any war, I just think if we don't fight Russia now, while they are on the battlefield we will end up fighting them later, when they are in a stronger position.

    Just my .02.....let's see if we can have an academic discussion as monkeys without all flinging our poo.....my money is against it.

    DD
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    Don’t be a stupid person.

    DD
     
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  4. durvasa

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    Sorry, but I am going to momentarily generalize:

    White people care more about white people. Black people care more about black people. Brown people care more about brown people.

    If caring more about people from your ethnic background makes you racist, then most of us have racism baked into us whether we care to admit it or not. It seems like a pretty close to universal trait.

    Kudos to the OP for being among the few that don’t have this baggage.
     
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    So your endorsement of military intervention here is to manage the geopolitical consequences of allowing Russia to “get away” with their invasion?

    Maybe the OP mistook you for wanting to intervene here solely out of sympathy for Ukrainians who are suffering greatly.
     
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    This beef getting heated.

    @mazyar
     
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    Need Jeff Ross for this roast.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It's not about hurting his feelings is just about having a productive debate.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Genocide, they are killing EVERYONE, and at some point, we have to stop Russia or they will keep doing it over and over and over.....

    I care about all people in this world - wish we could help everyone, but that is not realistic.

    My feelings are fine - I don't care that people with an agenda are looking to bend words to their narrative to make a point that no one was trying to make, that is what the GOP does.

    And, once we go I will happily Send Los and all his buddies to war to fight Russia - and wish them the BEST of luck... ;) (Sarcasm intended).

    DD
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    There is just a lot of false statements here.

    Democrats did not want to defund the military - you can find some crazies on the left who want that, but if we're going to judge with broad strokes then let's judge Republicans on the tiki torchers, right?

    And the calls for a no-fly zone has been across the political spectrum.
     
  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Exactly, and it's not realistic to help the Ukrainians any more than we already are doing.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    There is where we disagree, there is an actual battlefield, and an actual ARMY on it, to fight......this is a chance for us to put Russia in it's box PERMANENTLY and to establish rules of engagement and lines of stability permanently.

    Or they will keep on creeping and taking small bits of land.....I find it HILARIOUS they are claiming the USSR was some kind of country, RUSSIA took over the baltic states as CONQUERED after WW2.....that was never part of Russia.

    DD
     
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    Just a Civil war huh? Expand, what is this “civil war” that allows you to pull out this card to rationalize dead afghans. as bad as it was for them pre invasion it’s been worse since we ****ed up their country, with an Ill thought war by people like you who never have to fight them (check out your quick trigger finger here too) . you continually rationalize your assertions with “civilians are dying.” But just the ones you deem worthy. The Afghani orphans, widows would beg to disagree with you as would the Ukrainian innocent.

    @AroundTheWorld is right, perhaps you’re too misinformed and delusional to catch your own bias.

    ive posted on this board for almost 2 decades and sided with conservatives and liberals. Critical of Obama and trump. It’s amazing though how the left and leftist posters get a pass for these racist views of moral superiority and “they should be so thankful for allowing us to liberate them”. I’m not saying it’s not present on the right too, probably even more so but it really gets overlooked with the former as evidenced by DD himself.
     
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    What am I missing - I remember the user name, but that poster hasn't logged in in 10+ years?
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Geez, just keep talking past and ignore the points.

    All lives are equal - all wars are not.

    We should intervene where we can - and right now the Ukraine is it.

    DD
     
  17. LosPollosHermanos

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    This is so blatantly wrong I don’t even know what to say. You really think that this opportunity makes a difference in “putting Russia in its place”

    I don’t even know how to begin. If Russia wanted to end this in a similar fashion to how a full out world war would be played out, they would go get their Tsar Bomba clone from the 50/ and end this within a matter of seconds.

    that’s what you’re too delusional to understand. The aftermath of that doesn’t help anyone
     
  18. DaDakota

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    I don't think they will do that - I think that they are bluffing about Nuclear war.......I am fine with you disagreeing.

    Time to put you back on ignore, so you can try character assassination on others too.

    You are just mad that I thought us leaving Afgahnastan was the right thing, still do.

    DD
     
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  19. LosPollosHermanos

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    You don’t “think” huh? Yea let’s exercising what your, DD video gamer from Austin thinks, let’s escalate to the first war between the 2 biggest nuclear superpowers in the world based on what you think and them to be bluffing.


    Did you miss the Cold War ?
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Baltic states are no in immediate threat of Russia and are a part of NATO.

    Ukraine is deeply integrated with Russia's history and people. They didn't really have a national identity until recently. Regardless none of that is why we should not get involved.

    Our goal isn't to conquer Russia. Our goal is to defend our critical strategic interests which is done through NATO. Ukraine is not part of NATO. We can not risk all NATO countries for a non-NATO member. However unlikely you feel Russia using nukes are, the fact remains that risk can never be completely eliminated. That alone dictates our current strategy of not directly engaging with Russia in armed conflict.
     

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