Desantis seeks to punish Disney for disagreeing with him

What has the Disney Corporation abused? Are they not honoring the agreement that had been in place for decades?

 

Lol!


Woke people think you can just pick up Disney world and put in Seattle

hahahaha
@Os Trigonum

Disney world is the size of San Francisco

 

no, in fact you haven't been snide or snarky. But the line about my "evangelizing" ("but punishing a company for free speech is against what you and @Os Trigonum have been evangelizing for a while now") does come close.

 

That's one way of framing it, I suppose. But (a) I do not believe for one moment that the state action against the Disney district is 100% about the so-called 'Don't Say Gay Law.' If you ask me the tension between Disney and the state of Florida has likely been building for quite some time now, and the Disney Company's opposition to the law is just a convenient excuse.

And then (b) I don't see anyone's speech being censored. Disney is and has been and will continue to be free to say anything it wants about the 'Don't Say Gay' law. So their speech is still freely available to them.

What I do see is (c) possible political retaliation against by the state of Florida against Disney for what in all likelihood is a massive laundry list of grievances, among which is the Disney opposition to 'Don't Say Gay.'

Now. This is an issue I HAVE NOT FOLLOWED CLOSELY. I don't care about Disney; I don't care about Florida; and I have not yet seen anything that resembles a clear explanation of the so-called 'Don't Say Gay' law. So people who are asking about my opinion on stuff I know very little about are pretty much barking up the wrong tree.

Again, the tl;dr version: as far as I can tell, the Disney company is still free to say ANYTHING it wants on any issue; and the state of Florida is free to engage in political activities that affect corporations in the state of Florida--that's what governments do.

 

They might well be. In general, I'm for reducing the tax breaks given to large corporations. I feel like those breaks are an abuse. I don't know what else they might have done. I love Disney World and a lot of the conservation minded projects they do. I do believe they are overly litigious.

I was saying that if the governor went on a crusade to cut back on corporate tax breaks, I'd be supportive.

 

Disney has a first amendment case, you can't punish someone for their words, or the government can't.

DD

 

I think the bill itself and the free speech issue are two different things. I believe that someone could love the Don't say gay bill but hate that Disney is being punished by the government for opposing it.

The GOP has specifically said that they are doing it as retaliation. The only other beef that DeSantis had with Disney was that they still had masking in place while he was trying to get rid of it.

Disney brings in a ton of $$$ to Florida. They provide jobs in addition.

The governor didn't sign a law outlawing speech, but he did specifically state he was closing their tax breaks because of their public vocal opposition to his policies. The government is punishing a private enterprise because of their public stance on policy.

It is hard to find a more concrete infringement of free speech. Nothing Google, Twitter, or Facebook have done is anywhere near as cut and dry as this.

 

I understand that this is how people are framing the issue. I don't see it that way.

 

I don't know all the details of what exactly Disney's special district has but from what I'm hearing it sounds like yes. Disney has the same powers as a township.

 

Disney absolutely is being punished for speech. What other agenda do you think DeSantis is talking about referring to Disney?

Also FL has similar special districts including places like the Villages that are private corporations and DeSantis himself in the state legislature supported Disney getting the set asides.

I will agree Disney isn't being censored but this is a punishment for speech.

 

Are there any articles from before Disney spoke out about that law that shows how people in Florida didn't like Disney's special district status? I never heard about it being an issue until now.

 

Interesting to see the tables turn. Those who were staunchly against Citizens United are now in full support.

The party of anti-war is now fully behind escalating one.

 

Most people have never heard about it. And its much bigger than it being its own township.

 

Then you should accept reality and stop having such high expectations for a business, which the media is like it or not. The "liberal media" most certainly does get positive media attention towards its own people but the GOP is just better at being POS that cause outrage.

 

How so? I think people are just put off Desantis is essentially acting like Putin or some banana republic leader, punishing those who disagree with him.

There is no "anti war" party in America, only context. I'm sorry that most of America thinks Putin is at fault and we should provide aid to Ukraine.

 

So does this mean the Crying Game ride is not going to be built next to Broke Back space Mountain?
Will kids tell their parents that they want a Minnie Mouse doll and they get a Mickey , does mommy say it’s the same thing ?!

 

LOL Disney ain’t coming to Sugar Land @tinman

 

Okay. I understand that I won't convince you. But I'm curious and would like to understand where you are coming from.

When the governor says that because of Disney's opposition to the bill he is going to get rid of the tax status they have enjoyed for more than half of a century, how do you see it differently.

https://fortune.com/2022/04/22/florida-gov-desantis-signs-bill-punish-disney-dont-say-gay-law/

 

The question becomes . . .. . is removing a privilege (some say they should not have had in the 1st place)
considered "punishment"

Can you have a privilege so long that you feel it is a right.

Rocket River

 

Perhaps. But it was expressly done to be punitive. The governor of the state admitted that.