5 GBit AT&T Fiber

Yeah, what you need to do is get a switch that can handle the excess speed or you'll be limited to adding up to 5 gbit/s to the devices not connected to that one port. 2.5/5/10 would be good choices, but if you only have one actual device for the speed it'll work the way you have it. I think you'll find in most circumstances unless using a site like speed test/torrents/maybe steam, you're going to find it probably impossible to hit 5 gbit to a single ftp/site.

Regardless, that's crazy fast and probably the easiest way to make sure you're not getting throttled with the test you did.

 

A 5 gig connection really isn't for consumers (well, not in the US) since most families won't even saturate a gigabit network. Even most small offices don't need that kind of speed or bandwidth. Even if they do, they'll use the gateway to bring in the 5gig line and then segment the rest of the network off of gigabit switches for gigabit speeds or something. So there's really no point in slamming multiple 5 gig capable ports into a gateway hoping that the end user (typical Joe Consumer) is going to pay several hundred or thousands for it. It may even deter some people from buying it. So they basically sell you whatever it takes to get the line to your house and then, after it's at your wall, the rest is up to you -- which usually means shelling out more money.

AT&T has been rolling out 5 gig connections in a few states. I'm curious to see how it sells at these prices outside of the typical geeks wanting to be first on the block, pro-sumers, and offices. Speeds like this overseas are a lot cheaper, I think.

 

This is a good discussion. We are on the opposite end of the cable tv wave. Cable TV bandwidth is incredibly cheap thanks to streaming services. Netflix massive drops show how over valued streaming services have become. People wanted a la carte for cable TV and now they have the exact opposite.... over paying for multiple services for mediocre content. On demand streaming is starting to peak. It will of course keep growing, but it has reached its max network effect. I just dont see the average person needing massive amounts more bandwidth like people no longer need massive amounts of computing power. Add this to the recessionary effects for the foreseeable future.

 

All I know is: they trenched it next to my house six months ago and all I’m eligible for with ATT is DSL. Get your **** together, HBO!

 

They've got gigabit in neighborhoods around me and rolled out or are rolling out 5 gigabit in the DFW area... meanwhile AT&T says I can get a max of 50 megabits download for $55/month. lol.

 

I think a lot of this is on a case-by-case basis. I've seen several people post they've ditched everything but OTA and an Internet connection, while others may subscribe continuously to one streaming service like a YouTube TV. I also see a lot of people hop around on streaming services or wait for some kind of discount. For example, I only have YouTube TV now and will wait for a good deal on Paramount+ just for the new Star Trek stuff. Then I'll grab that deal and maybe binge-watch it for a month or two and cancel. Last time I got the service for something like $35-$45 for the year, I think. Doing that is far cheaper than what people used to get screwed over on with year-round cable tv service.

On the other end of the spectrum are the people that have to have Netflix, Hulu, Paramount+, Disney+, etc. all year round... that can get pricey unless you can grab onto discounted services. But I honestly don't know anybody that does that, but stuff like Paramount+ and Disney+ aren't exorbitantly priced when you think about it at around $8/month or less or whatever it's at now, when you think about it. I still think most of these combined are cheaper than the reaming you'd take if you were forced to bundle with the internet provider and their cable tv where they locked you into some rate that changed after 12 months. If you got rid of one, the other went up. I'd much rather do streaming tv, to be honest.

 

lol. You need an intervention.

I have Spectrum's 400 megabit service and that's like $65/month for me. I had to lock that price in for 2 years. Those 2 years are going to be up in a few months and they'll probably jack up my rates. The only alternative where I live is 50 megabit internet for $55/month, so I'm probably going to have to eat whatever price Spectrum offers... or maybe go down a tier to 200 megabit which I don't mind since even 400 megabit is probably overkill for me. What's stupid is there's another company offering gigabit for $50, but for some reason, they only service a couple of streets in my neighborhood. lol. Internet in the US can be so weird, but maybe it's like that everywhere.

 

Ah nice, I think I missed the switch part earlier.

If I had your setup I'd have to finally upgrade my pfsense setup and various other switches in the house. I only have 400 mbit at the moment, and while at&t is tearing up my neighborhood we're still stuck at 50mb atm from them, so I have to stay with spectrum... I can usually get around 480 either wireless/wired due to multiple APs/wired backbone, but with yours though it'd be nice to have that upload speed for web hosting, 20mbit upload is a joke on my end...

 

I know the answer to this one.

 

Lol posting on this BBS requires a dial-up connection...

 

How is it we are two pages into this and nobody gave you the right answer yet?

Every electrical component between the telephone pole/box and your laptop internals have to be capable of running at that speed. So if you ensure you have all the wires and bits upgraded, then it's likely the motherboard on your Macbook. Either the bus, the memory, some chip on your network adapter, or another internal component. Just because you have a 10gb network adapter, the data must leave your network adapter and it get passed through your motherboard. If any part along the way before you see the result on your monitor is not capable, then that is your bottleneck.

So if you want to test if you are getting 5gb of throughput, you likely need an discreet network monitor and then get multiple machine simultaneously running a test. You'd have to read the results from the network monitor, not from any of the machines.

I know this to be true because I once was in charge of validating a network circuit to an offsite data center and they wanted to validate they were getting the full throughput. It took me a lot of effort to find the right equipment that was capable of pushing enough data through the line to reach the limit. So in the end, I had to use two servers with upgraded network cards to both max out their output before I could hit the limit. One machine despite the network card being rated as such, was not capable of getting anywhere near the theoretical limit.

As an aside, few people, if any, have practical a need for 5gb of throughput at this point in time. Conversely, pay attention to latency. If you are getting sub-part sub-par response times, you'll definitely notice that with each and every click. Latency is more important than throughput (generally).

 

I guess you skipped the first page of responses.

 

Nobody mentioned on the first page that his motherboard is likely the bottleneck. I guess I could have compressed my 3 paragraphs into one sentence.

 

It’s not though. Lol. Just leave the thread.

He didn’t plug it in to the right port. Which he later corrected and is working now.

Either read the entire thread or be quiet.

 

Ah, stepping out. lol. I see he mentioned on the bottom of a long post containing giant pics where he said in one sentence it's working now.

I didn't think any individual machine could drive 5gb throughput. Learned something new. I guess my info is dated. Not sure what is the use-case is for 5gb throughput but glad he got it working and he's getting what he paid for.

I have 175mb cable with 20+ devices including 5 laptops simultaneously on online meetings/websites/videos during the height of covid and everything worked fine.

Again, latency is usually more important than throughput. Fix your DNS.

 

ya I would rather have snappy 100mbps than higher latency 5gbps.

I can see this as a good idea for like a 4-5 bedroom house shared by a bunch of college kids needing MAX BANDWIDTH TO WATCH 4K VIDEOS while broadcasting on OF...hypothetically.

 

With AT&T you always had to READ the fine print, we bought 1gig up and down for our office, and we would only get like 700mb bi directionally, finally they said....well it is for UP TO 1 gig......and we were like...what?

So, yeah, pass on anything they say....read the fine print.

DD