Psaki Says "Gender Affirming Care" for Kids Is 'Best Practice'

Suppose a parent tells the school that her male child is trans and should be treated like a girl, and addressed with she/her pronouns.

Should the school deny the parent's request and require the teachers address the child as a boy?

 

Sure but then there is really no point to a discussion or debate as in that case you aren't communicating what your intention is.

Let me ask you succinctly and you can answer how you feel:
Do you believe that without this law there will be an acceptance of pedophilia?

How do you know what is the "organic" number? And again what does it matter if there are more people identifying as LGBT?

 

How young are these parents requesting this? I am probably in for a rude awakening if this is happening in elementary school.

 

But a lot of school, especially in the early years, is social as well. Also if students hear other kids using derogatory terms biased against homosexual or trans people, those issues may need to be addressed. Encouraging a welcoming environment from the get-go might help prevent the bullying in the first place.

 

I've only skimmed the last few pages but on the issue of teaching masturbation to children.
First off I believe this is one of those issues that is is more of an outlier that makes for great rhetorical fodder but likely isn't going to be much of an issue. While I have no doubt that teacher in Kentucky is an actual person and actually believes what she says about teaching toddlers I don't believe this is a widely shared view. Further this is a tangent from the main issue which isn't sex-ed but about the acceptance and acknowledgement of LGBT. This is another tangent that is muddying the issue.

You can acknowledge the existence of LGBT without ever talking about sex acts. In fact the text of the FL legislation doesn't mention anything about sex acts.

 

Absolutely. Bullying should not be tolerated from the start.

 

I'm not a teacher but if I was and a child asked me about if they are a boy or a girl I would tell them this:
"Johnny, you're a boy but there are a lot of Johnny and Maxs who believe they are Jill and Marys. There is nothing wrong with that but this isn't a decision that you should make quickly or a decision that you should make soon. It will be one of the most important decisions you make in your life and before you do that you should talk to your parents and many other people. If you decide that you're really not a boy that is OK and you can still lead a good life. If you decide you are a boy that is OK too. What is important is that you are happy with who you are."

 

I'm pretty damn sure that by the time you as a teacher have a five- or six-year old in kindergarten or first grade, that kid is probably not asking you if they are a boy or a girl. It's not like teachers have students who have been raised by wolves and for whom that is still an open question

 

This is why many arent on board with this. Kids shouldn't be pressured into this decision during kindergarten. With all due respect, I would pretty upset with your interaction my kid.

 

You mean how old would the kid be? Let's just say, hypothetically, kindergarten. Should school deny the wishes of that kids' family, if they wish for the kid to be treated as a girl?

 

The situation was if a kid asked. Also note I did say it wasn't a decision to be rushed and to talk to parents. If you find that upsetting you're entitled to that as a parent.

 

Maybe not but that was the scenario presented.

 

I might have missed that

 

Ah, but here is the thing. The teacher never said she wants to teach masturbation to children. She said that she thinks masturbation is healthy and recommends it for all ages. The only thing she said about teaching in that clip was that she thought it was important to teach children about all of their body parts.

I am against teaching masturbation to childen but am for telling young people that masturbation is not some evil thing to do.

 

No.

We don't know what it is. The theoritical number has always been around 10%. The increase in young people identifying as LGBT matters because it ain't real. In effect, young LGBT people are being created not born as we once believed.

 

I guess you roll with it. I would limit my kids exposure to the mentally ill parents because you know darn well a 5 year old should not be tasked with making these decisions.

 

Good. Then lets put to rest this idea that there is an attitude from those who oppose this law will lead to anything goes.

Yet you've said several times you don't believe this law will make much of a difference and that teachers have little influence on what children identify with. So in that sense what is the purpose of this law if at best it is negligible and that all we have is a theoretical number of what might be the "organic" amount of LGBT?

 

OK. And then, if other kids ask why that one kid is being treated like a girl when the kid looks like a boy, what should the teachers say? And should the teacher discourage other children in the classroom from treating the kid as a boy or bullying the kid for being "weird"?

May seem like an unlikely scenario, but it's a big country and these things can happen.

 

it's a reliable heuristic for navigating the world, but there are of course exceptions

my intuition says a mother with natural hair color is less likely to perpetuate this garbage to kids than a purple-haired childless person

and I do like typing it for sure

 

Don't be a garden tool. This is what you asked: Do you believe that without this law there will be an acceptance of pedophilia? You didn't ask about any attitude.

And I stand by that. Why? Well, IMO, social media has been the biggest factor in this increase, most of the increase in LGBT identification is among teenage girls, teenage girls use social media more than teenage boys and probably more than any other demographic. The young this law is attempting to protect is likely not on social media because they don't usually have their own cell phones. Since this law does nothing to protect teenagers on social media from LGBT content, it will have little effect on reducing the number of youth identifying as LGBT. However, it could keep the number of kids in K through 2 (?) deciding they are also a part of a LGBT group down because teachers won't be allowed to play the role of social media.