Psaki Says "Gender Affirming Care" for Kids Is 'Best Practice'

These lunatics think teachers should out kids to their parents? The ****?

 

Why do you post things from a bigoted hateful place that doesn't address actual issues?

 

Purple haired childless freaks should not be teaching kindergartners that gender spectrums exist.

 

Would you be OK with blonde haired teachers who have their own kids teaching them this? Trying to understand if there’s something about being a “purple haired childless freak” that makes them unqualified to discuss gender, or if you just like typing “purple haired childless freaks”.

 

What about childless, wifeless freaks showing up at school boards meetings, like your boy Ron Watkins?

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We disagree in whether these are actual issues but that's ok. I do wish the videos were posted with less commentary.

My daughter starts kindergarten soon and I would hope they stick to reading and writing rather than gender spectrums. Save that for when they actually know what a pronoun is.

 

What happens when children asks questions? What if your daughter asks a question about gender in school? Then what?

Do children in school just stick with the curriculum and never ask questions or bring up issues beyond the curriculum? Were you ever a child in school?

 

Who knows... but we'll see what she posts from now on.

You're trying way too hard here.

Masturbation is whatever, we all have hairy palms... masturbation plus toddler is a problem.

I thought that for two reasons... 1. It actually sounded like that until I listened carefully and 2. I was not making a great leap to think that she would agree to teaching masturbation to young kids. I mean, that accusation would not be baseless even though it could be wrong.

Because it's unnecessary. I'm sure Louis C.K. and Jeffrey Toobin knew beating off in front of others or exposing themselves was wrong, but they did it anyway. Those are things 16-year-olds and adults already know, but toddlers need to be taught that. That's who she was talking about. You're trying too hard again.

I'm not going to argue that, but it's arguable.

You are free to disagree, but people are also free to believe that a person who believes masturbating is okay for toddlers should not teach sex education to minors, children, 16-year-olds, or really anyone. For many people it is wrong to associate masturbation in anyway to toddlers.

What did your gut tell you? There's no need to think about toddler masturbation. The natural reaction that it's wrong is correct. You've been convinced that it's not. But whatever, that's just like my opinion.

 

Isn’t knowing when it’s appropriate to use “he” or “she” pretty fundamental when learning to write or form sentences?

Or should kids be taught to just use gender-neutral pronouns like they/them until they are older?

 

In kindergarten, you tell them that Johnny and Max are little boys while Abby and June are little girls and point them to the correct restroom. What would you like to tell them?

 

I dont mind if my daughter waits to start calling a singular person "them" for a few years. Teaching them that they/them is plural is fine with me. She meets tons of 4 and 5 year old kids and hasnt misgendered one yet.

 

I don’t disagree but what happens when a child asks a question that forces you to talk about trans or someone different?

Change the subject? So you think the conversation shouldn’t go any further than what you indicated?

What age is appropriate? Or it’s never appropriate?

 

Not really, not like what I said was incorrect.

Based on your morals, sure. Based on people that study child behavior, nope. Why is it a problem exactly? What harm is it doing?

That is a great leap to assume that she would like to teach children to masturbate when she said no such thing. That's a pretty serious accusation...

She was talking about toddlers in the context that it's a 1 minute clip that was part of of a video series aimed at teenagers. Who is trying too hard here? You've assumed several things about this woman because of this clip and at first interpreted it completely different and imagined she said things she didn't.

I'm not the one trying too hard here.

She literally called this person a 'Predator . Literally. It's not arguable. She called the person a 'predator' and made a post framing her as such.

Here is what she said...Quote, copy/paste quote... "The left is upset that I called “a woman teaching sex education to children” a predator. Obviously no context was provided. It’s referring to this video of a woman who wants to teach toddlers to masturbate. The left is defending this."

So, we've established and you admitted that this woman never claimed to 'want' to teach toddlers. That never came out of her mouth per this clip. So why is LoTT claiming it did? That's some leap she does there to call this person a predator. I can claim anyone secretly wants to touch children without proof it's a baseless accusation.

My gut doesn't care if an adult isn't involved. I had no reaction to it when sweetlou said it and when she said it, I didn't immediately think of it being as sexual at all I guess. I immediately thought "Oh, because you're curious and touch yourself, makes sense." As one of those studies said pretty much everyone...EVERYONE...masturbates before reaching 18. Why do I care if a 2 year old does it or an 11 or 16 year old? As long as its not physically harming or some kind of result of a medical condition...don't care.

Here we rely on one of the worst fallacies of all. Naturalistic fallacy. I don't like pointing out fallacies, its dorky, but this one is probably the worst. You're assuming that any appeal to naturality is correct. Your natural reaction isn't always correct. People have a natural reaction to interracial marriage, did that make them right?

I know what you'll say because you've said it before "I won't compare this to civil rights." but failing to do so is failing to ask yourself that question and realizing that you can't logically follow this and be consistent without admitting that you were wrong. That natural reactions can be wrong and thus can't be relied on. If we all just relied on natural reactions we'd be socially in medieval times and punishing women for having periods.

Your gut feeling isn't more reliable than years of study and research, to think so is some kind of hubris to have. I don't mind that it is your opinion, I really don't, but I do mind when people think their opinions and gut reactions should result in the punishment of others or to tolerate the punishment of others.

And the funny thing about it...child masturbation IS NATURAL. We've established that it happens and is actually very common. I would again ask, what is the harm? A little 2 year old does it if bored and left alone, who did s/he harm? Asking questions and challenging your natural reactions and gut feelings, that's human. We are more than instinct, that's what makes us different than other animals.

 

We can tell them that people all don't conveniently fall into your said dichotomy and those people often struggle with bigots like you so we can teach these kids basic empathy skills so they don't turn out like you?

Is that more fair? Nothing to do with teaching kids about having gay or transgender sex. I still don't know why your mind goes there. Maybe something to do with your upbringing failing you in learning basic empathy skills.

 

so was that insult really necessary?

 

Darn it Chowd. Rolling with the bigot card because I dont want my 5 year old discussing them/they/lgbt+. I don't want them discussing many things but that doesnt make me a bigot. My "empathy skills" are more than adequate and I hope sharing my reluctance to have these conversations with 5 year olds doesn't put a damper on your day.

 

I am sure it is appropriate at some point. But at age 5 or 7, not so much. What do teachers do when a kid asks if santa is real, change the subject...fine with me. I change the subject or song on the radio around my kids all the time.

 

You still haven't given a reason that amounts to anything more "it sounds icky to me".

If you think you'll shame me for calling you a bigot, then don't. Your posting history and what your routinely.degend provides enough information for me to comfortably call you one with no remorse.

At the end of the day, I'm pretty sure it doesn't bother you what my opinion is of you. So sleep comfortably dude. You still are a bigot in my eyes.

 

Quit polarizing me bro

 

It's curious how many grown men are interested in grooming and sex education.... "Did he say he never forgets a kid?"