Psaki Says "Gender Affirming Care" for Kids Is 'Best Practice'

What are your feelings of libsoftiktok working to get teachers fired for expressing their opinion? Is that not censorship and cancel culture?

 

This is simple a false statement. The edit content to misrepresent people so they can get them fired. If you think that's just aggregation and reposting, you're being completely dishonest or you are completely ignorant. Which one is it?

 

Do you believe I don't know what I know? That other people can interpret my own intentions better than I can?

The organic number won't be affected by the law. Correct. That is what I believe. The inorganic number will though.

 

I forgot about this.

Can you imagine the **** storm if a left leaning anything, let alone a national publication, said something like this?

 

I can honestly say I don't think I've seen but five or six libsoftiktok things EVER. So when I replied to @FranchiseBlade about his not wanting people to post their stuff here, I meant it: how am I supposed to form an opinion one way or another about any of this stuff if I'm prevented from seeing it in the first place? and I don't care enough about libsoftiktok to go out in the world, track the stuff down, and watch it myself. I've got other things I'm interested in.

I'm left with having to either (a) take your word for it, and that of people like franchiseblade--some of whom are trustworthy but I suspect most are not; or (b) just ignore and/or otherwise bow out of the conversation.

You make a very bold claim: "libsoftiktok working to get teachers fired for expressing their opinion?" I understand that others are making the same or similar claims. But such claims have often proven misleading or even false on similar issues in the past. Why should I simply take your word for it in the absence of evidence?

Again, my limited familiarity with libsoftiktok is that they basically repost liberals' own videos of themselves. That's the extent of my knowledge about libsoftiktok.

 

and in terms of "getting people fired." As far as I know, libsoftiktok are NOT the ones doing the firing. Boards of Education, school principals, and school superintendents are the ones DOING the firing. I assume that in many if not most of those cases, people are getting fired for CAUSE and are given some kind of explanation for why their employment was terminated.

So until you can provide some details about the WHY people are getting fired--meaning the H.R. reasons in any given school district--which you can't, generally speaking, because such personnel decisions are private and not public matters . . . until you can provide those details, you don't have much of an argument here as far as I can tell about the WHY people are getting fired.

 

There is a reason she's deleting thousands of tweets...if nothing was wrong with them, why delete them? Seems there is a lot of tweets she's not very proud of.

I mean...all the sex scandals involving masturbation that isn't consensual says otherwise...suggests that a friendly reminder doesn't hurt. We remind teens not to rape, kill, steal, etc. Teaching is often about repetition, isn't it? While teens might know it is bad they might not know the harm it costs to others or understand how serious it might be or how serious its consequences might be.

I suggest this is more of a thing about you than others. It looks like it is very normal for others but the term 'masturbation' triggers an emotional response for you.

Well that's fair...I'll hit on this later because I think it's important. She didn't say that but it's what people took from it, why is that?

Teens need to learn everything they can about sex. Everything. Hormones and horniness is through the roof at that age, teens need to learn everything they can about it because a lot of them are likely will be doing it wheter you like it or not. Most teens understand things are bad but don't take things seriously. Young people in general think they are invulnerable. They know sex can result in a baby but they still will do it. They know about STDs but they still will do it. They know about how harmful drugs are because they still will do it. I'd say this extends to young adults as well. When we are young we downplay consequences or just flat out ignore them as if they don't apply. Isn't that why any parent is worried sick about sending their teen out into the world that they'll do something dumb without realizing how dumb it is?

Remember this is a sex summer camp virtual series. It likely was just a program that tried to cover as many topics as possible. The OP (libs of tiktok) is the only one assuming this woman is obsessed with this subject or that it is some kind of major focus. For all we know, this is the only time masturbation is talked about.

I think it's good advice...as we've seen multiple powerful men think masturbating in front of women or sending them pictures of their junk is okay. It isn't. Reminding teens (especially young boys) that doing that when it's not consensual isn't a bad thing. If you're teaching Sex-ed you might as well throw masturbation in there. Why not?

So this is what libsoftiktok has done to many educators. You might not have imagined that but if you look at the replies to her post...many did. Many at least thought of that "She's teaching sex ed to kids in a summer camp..." because that's how LoTT framed it. If she were fair she would have put it bare before all of them and just mentioned she was uncomfortable with what this woman said, instead she brings up this post as a defense of people saying she calls everyone groomers. "Look at this post, how is this woman NOT a groomer?" she reposted this yesterday as proof that she has a right to call this woman a groomer...

But we know now this woman was making a video for sex-ed for high schoolers, if everyone knew that right off the bat I imagine some of those people wouldn't be that outraged by the video. Maybe they would disagree...

but now imagine that some people think that she's literally inviting toddlers to a summer camp to teach them how to masturbate? See how this is dangerous?

She's already been the reason that some educators received death threats.

Well that's fine. I'll stick with the opinion of experts and people that study child behavior for a career personally. I have no issue delegating because I know I haven't thought about it as much as someone whose studied it has thought about it.

But I guess my point was that this wasn't some out there outrageous position being taken. It seems that what this teacher said is something any pediatrician would tell you if you asked them about it but she's getting crucified because of the framing of a tweet that took a short clip of her.

All the people that hate cancel culture should be explicitly against this.

 

The point of "libsoftiktok", as far as I can tell, is to whip up outrage against certain individuals because the account owner doesn't like something they are saying, with the evident intent to inflict some sort of punishment on them by directing a mob towards them. I'm against this, for the same reasons I'm against "cancel culture" in general.

Twitter, as a platform, enables such abuse. For people who are free speech proponents, they need to think very carefully about whether this sort of thing promotes or squashes people's ability to speak freely on controversial topics.

 

People like @Os Trigonum have labeled what you describe in the first paragraph of people directing criticism towards an individual as cancel culture so I don't see what's wrong with labeling what "libsofticktock" as cancel culture if we are being logically consistent.

 

I encourage Dems to run on the "sex ed for kindergartners taught by childless freaks with purple hair" platform for the midterms

 

It's so funny. It shows how your mind immediately goes into gutter trash.

You know there is a difference between teaching kids that different spectrums exist for gender and teaching them how to perform sex right?

Why do right wing bigots immediately jump to that assumption? Is it some sort of projection?

 

You would definitely not have this same opinion if someone was 'canceled' by a left wing mob. You understand that someone can be fired because of a mob demanding that they be fired whether it is right or wrong.

So every time someone is fired or attacked for saying something racist or sexist we can reply with "I need explicit details WHY this person was fired, how do you know it was because of that? It could be H.R reasons. Unless you're privy of personnel decisions..."

Since cancel culture has been a hot topic down here in the DnD I've never seen someone take this position until now...it was generally accepted that people were being fired because the employer was under pressure to do so.

Spoiler

Here is LoTT revealing that a teacher was fired because of backlash...


Here is LoTT going back and fourth with Desantis' press secretary...



Here is LoTT doing the usual thing of highlighting the district or even the school if she's lucky, knowing that her followers will contact them and create a ruckus.

So, the whole "All they do is repost..." wrong, they repost tiktoks and frame people as groomers or target them for harassment or firing. That's what they do. Why if you're reposting it is it relevant where this person teaches? Did the original tik tok post include that info? My guess is it didn't or people wouldn't be asking and she wouldn't have clarified it.

You in particular Os can't really talk about 'cancel culture' with a straight face and defend this account.

 

I don't believe I have ANYWHERE, "defended this account"

 

So you agree it's cancel culture?

 

Sounds like you're acknowledging this is a nothing burger meant to deceive people to drive up turnout.

 

and when did you stop beating your wife

 

Right here...

It's a clear defense of the account and even a claim that they are not being fired because of it.

LoTT are intentionally telling people where teachers work to call the district or school to fire them. Openly LoTT roots for them to get fired, brags about it when it happens, sometimes makes multiple posts about the same person when it doesn't happen like she's rallying the troops.

 

reading is hard

 

So is being logically consistent.

 

are you saying I'm misrepresenting your views?