I don't know if this is common knowledge, but around the 40 second mark of this video, Banchero claims that he was 6'10" without shoes when this video was filmed in late 2020. And in this video, a noteworthy discussion about Jabari's shooting and (in)ability to create shots. I've timestamped it, but it's around 1:35 just in case.
Its no different than how bro's and close family will argue about sports or politics or whatever. There is never any ill will on my part and whatever petty jabs we take at each other isnt a personal affront. Sport is passion so it can get intense I understand that, but this year specifically isnt reason enough to go line in the sand over. I respect your position and anyone else who can display and express their passion without getting completely unruly. Our fanbase has had it good for a long time we forgot what a rebuild was and how many twists and turns it has and Im sure we're all hoping it ends in a champagne shower in a few years. There is no "right" way this early in the process, but a vision of what you are committed to should already be shared and installed among the decision making totem for this team. I think we will all learn a lot about Rafael Stone after these two first round picks and what brand of basketball he views as winning games moving forward.
Yes, I like Mathurin for us. I'm divided on Keegan Murray or Mathurin at #5. Mathurin works in well, imo guarding Point Guards. Probably better than Jalen Green and/or Porter jr. Moving Porter to guard SF's. Because Mathews has limitations as SF as does Green defensively. Of course everyone switches though. Mathurin probably provides good help defense with his leaping ability and speed. Still have Porter facilitation on the offensive end. ________________ With Mathurin Offensively....... Defensively Porter..................Mathurin Thrilla..................Thrilla Mathurin............Porter C Wood...............Wood Sengun...............Sengun ___________________ With Keegan Murray Porter Thrilla Keegan Murray Wood Sengun
I see this often.....but are we really putting science into the pick when people say "go best player available" like 98% of the time. BPA in my opinion is Chet. Best fit is Jabari Smith, again my opinion. Which prolongs the rebuild and which quickens the rebuild? With BPA, it often leads to time training up, building trade value, trading for picks or player. As was the case with Nerlens Noel, Jahill Okafor, Ben Simmons, Holmes, and others. Did all these duplicates delay the progress of Embiid? Must we, "have to hit on it!"
I can't say you're wrong because, like you said, it's your opinion. With me being ignorant than most on here when it comes to watching/understanding the prospects, why do you think Jabari fits better than Chet, when looking at their strengths and what they bring to the table? On the surface this team lacks interior defense and height and while both prospects DO bring both as strengths going into the draft, Holmgren's defense has been rated on another level in comparison to Jabari's. Smith's potential 3 point shooting would open a lot of real estate around the paint for Green and Porter to operate but Chet has potential to do the same while also having the potential to anchor our last place defense. Just want to gain some insight on what I probably have missed on both players.
Yes, I think we need another future all star, I wouldn’t even consider fit at this point. This team is still really bad.
You dont remember the guys who said Jalen Suggs would be the steal of the draft? You dont remember how many people gloated and pounded their chest for being in the Mobley camp because he had a hot start to the season? Does being "right" about Mobley exonerate those who took a dump on Green? The Barnes Brigade may have the most room to talk if he wins ROY after I heard how it was a "lock" for Mobley. Jalen himself had to eat a taco when he said he would be the ROY. This place spent a few weeks posting the receipts from all of those who had to account for their posts to end the year. You may have missed those threads. Armchair analysts and water cooler scouts is all we are here. Ego stroking on this platform is really cringe and making absolute statements to prop up an opinion is why peoples noses get rubbed in their own comments hence "eating crow". I had a warm serving for saying Cade was not a foundational type player and now Cade looks like a first option franchise guy. I take that L and wont make an excuse for it I was just wrong and Im not so prideful that I cant accept a defeat in that debate.
So you guarantee a future All Star. That's nice. Like Fultz and Bagley? When can we expect your favorite to meet that goal?
Your eating crow proclamation is premature. The clear frontrunners for ROY are down to only 2 players and the race should end tighter than it was for most of season. 24 Media ballots (fourth of the total votes) favor Mobley while Barnes ended regular season strong by winning ROM. Evan Mobley (78.33%) Scottie Barnes (68.33%) Cade Cunningham (33.33%) Mobley averaged 15 points, 8.3 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 1.7 blocks in 69 games. He led all first-year players in rebounding, blocked shots and double-doubles (21). He was one of two players this season to average at least 14 points, eight rebounds and 1.5 blocks on 50% shooting. Barnes finished averaging 15.3 points, 7.5 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 1.1 steals in 74 games. He was third in scoring, third in rebounding and fourth in steals. He was named the Eastern Conference Rookie of the Month from February to April. https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fa...-awards-media-poll-results-rookie-of-the-year https://www.si.com/nba/2022/04/08/n...tie-barnes-evan-mobley-cade-cunningham-awards Even Vegas is slightly hedging their odds. https://www.thesportsgeek.com/blog/2022-nba-rookie-of-the-year-betting-odds-and-predictions/ Race should be tight and accolades are abundant but well deserved. So instead of bitterness, just be happy that Green ended the season with a huge exclamation point and earned a place on All Rookie First Team and should continue to build on that success going forward. This draft class is proving to be as deep and as special as predicted.
The thing is Evan Mobley has a low ceiling compared to dudes like Green and Cade. Mobley isn't that skilled offensively and has even less of a chance of learning to shoot than Sengun does even. Mobley will always be pretty mid. He got some early season hype as an NBA ready player on a stacked team... and now Draymond is hyping him cuz he loves big men. Green >>>>>>>>>>> and it's not even close honestly
Whose bitter? Im ecstatic with Jalen Green - ECSTATIC!! He is the most dynamic and exciting player from that draft. I kind of hoped Jalen woudlnt get first team accolades and all the fluff of rookie awards (even when Jalen himself had them as goals for the season). I want him hungry and with a chip on his shoulder. Its not how you start a career, but how you finish it so I agree it should be fun to watch the evolution of the 2021 NBA draft. Point still standing that braggarts usually end up being humbled.
If you need a(nother) center (in the rotation) and we do, then it's either Duke's Mark Williams or Auburn's Walker Kessler. I would be happy with either one but it's looking like Williams may be available at 17 and Kessler should be available at 17. Can someone compare and contrast these two big man prospects - I see Kessler as a game changing defender with Williams maybe being a tier below that but still could be very impactful on that side. Offensively neither is a bucket but they both have things they can do - how do you see them comparing to each other as prospects and would it be worth the perceived capital to move up for Williams or better to stand pat for Kessler.
I don’t guarantee but believe we need another infusion of all star talent with this pick. So, for instance, I wouldn’t draft Chet over Paolo because he’s a better fit if I thought Paolo was the most likely to be an all star player. Nor would I pass on Ivey for a big if Ivey projected as an all star. Fit is just not a consideration yet, accumulation of the most talent is all that should matter. Besides Green, everyone else currently on the roster seems like the 4th or 5th option on a contender. We need the 2nd and 3rd options, and I don’t care what position they play.
Sengun might get there, but he might also be the 4th or 5th best player when the team is a contender. Which is fine, he’s a really good player, every contender needs an Otis Thorpe or Luis Scola. He will be at least that level and very possibly more.
