I don't believe we will have a nuclear war - but I will tell you who cares....the people dying in the Ukraine right now don't care, they are dying anyway, they would rather have the help..... Haven't we learned that we can't sit by and proxy it - WW1 and WW2 taught us nothing? Don't you think that us taking that off the table has emboldened Putin? We should have left ALL OPTIONS on the table..... DD
Run and hide...... every time when someone asks you a question about something you posted..... Were you not raised to be accountable?
Who cares Piuin uses nukes? Time for you to get back to computer games or thinking about the NBA Draft? Possibly mediation?
@tinman, your #GhostFleet moment of the day: SpaceX shut down a Russian electromagnetic warfare attack in Ukraine last month — and the Pentagon is taking notes Dave Tremper, director of electronic warfare for the Office of the Secretary of Defense, pointed to SpaceX’s ability last month to swiftly stymie a Russian effort to jam its Starlink satellite broadband service, which was keeping Ukraine connected to the Internet. SpaceX founder Elon Musk steered thousands of Starlink terminals to Ukraine after an official sent him a tweet asking for help keeping the besieged country online. “The next day [after reports about the Russian jamming effort hit the media], Starlink had slung a line of code and fixed it,” Tremper said. “And suddenly that [Russian jamming attack] was not effective anymore. From [the] EW technologist’s perspective, that is fantastic … and how they did that was eye-watering to me.” https://www.c4isrnet.com/air/2022/0...KZo-pc1E1qek2jwYvOtK8uLzq_TeaJozBZ7mm0C0BxRLQ
If it’s any consolation DD I would vote for you if you were the nominee vs Abbott. GM of the Rockets….
Cyber warfare. The US military is at least a decade behind, if not more. Government has been proven very inefficient. Private sector has been the forefront of keeping US interest on point. Ukraine is in a war using decades old technology. This is a distraction.
Our cyber defense is bayud enough to allocate billions into not getting hacked and only notice it when a private company alerts the government. Offensive cyber warfare is tricky. Once your tools are discovered, its exclusive shelf life begins. A few years ago, former nsa contractors under Cyberbrokers leaked their premium hacking programs (possibly whatever Snowden mentioned plus one gen newer) for crypto ransom. It was like they clicked on a folder, moved it to a zip drive, then posted on internet for Profit. Only then did our spooks actively reported to vendors like MS, Apple, and Adobe about their 0-day exploits... Even then some of those exploits ended up back in our corporate servers for more cyber ransoms. It's a double edged sword, and something you don't want to brag about compared to lobbing missiles at bin Ladens terror BBQ socials.
Sure you don't believe we won't have a nuclear war but is that a gamble you're willing to bet the lives of millions on? Of course the people of Ukraine are dying and would like to see NATO and others come in and fight. If your house is on fire and you're inside, you're likely not going to be concerned if your neighbors risk their life to save you and if that might mean their house catches on fire too. As I've said before we may end up in a war with Russia, we may end up in a nuclear war. I would rather not do anything to hasten that end. I strongly recommend studying the history of World War I and the Guns of August, to understand how small conflicts can end up becoming a World War with the deaths of millions. The stakes since 1914 have only increased then.
America’s Interest in Ukrainian Victory A Russian defeat could reshape the security landscape to U.S. advantage in Europe and beyond. Andrew A. Michta April 20, 2022 If the Ukrainian military—properly equipped with the weapons it needs—defeats the Russian army and liberates its national territory, it will have effectively nullified the Putin–Xi gambit, ending the two-front simultaneous threat to the United States and its allies. Those in Washington who continue to argue that the war in Europe is a distraction from the real “pacing threat” in Asia should understand that the defeat of the Russian army in Ukraine would make their strategic priority a reality. Russian defeat would free the United States to focus on the Indo-Pacific, in the process solidifying NATO and finally bringing about a genuine rearmament of Europe. Those who believe that the United States and its allies should ensure only that Ukraine “stays in the fight” should realize that another stalemate similar to what has prevailed in eastern Ukraine since 2014 is unlikely. If Putin succeeds in severing Donbas from Ukraine and establishing a land corridor to Crimea, the Ukrainian rump state will have no industry left to speak of, becoming another Moldova on a larger scale. The Ukrainian leadership understands this. Hence the grand strategic musings about “freezing the conflict” entertained in European capitals and in some quarters in Washington are largely divorced from reality. Today, the United States and its allies face a choice: go for a stalemate and all but ensure that Putin, once he has reconstituted his forces, will invade yet again (this time with a greater risk of escalation into NATO territory); or supply Ukraine with what it needs today to defeat Putin’s army and, in doing so, transform the regional security equation. Only when Russia has been pushed out of Eastern Europe will the region have a shot at becoming anchored in the West, leaving behind its legacy as Europe’s “crush zone.” Most importantly, at this moment of historical change in global power distribution, Ukraine’s victory over Russia could bring about a lasting peace in Europe and, with it, a fundamental change in the security equation in Asia. https://www.city-journal.org/americas-interest-in-ukrainian-victory
The flipside of this is that you're gambling on the chance of nuclear war either way. If Putin learns that threatening nukes is effective, then the new world is going to involve countries threatening to use nukes all the time to get their way. Russia will do it again; maybe China will join in, Pakistan/India might, etc. Not because they'll ever actually nukes - but because they will have learned its a bluff the other side will never call.
