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[LOLaptop] US President's Son Solicits $2 Billion Bribe from Saudis

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  1. Andre0087

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    Nothing wrong with a post-bribe...
     
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    sure.
     
  3. Newlin

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    $2 billion is a fairly large sum of money.
     
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  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So, since you won't vote for Hunter Biden, why do you care about him?
     
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  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    So you are saying that the quid is wrong, but so long as the quo comes after it's ok?
     
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    selected memory on your part;

    when Trump was in office, here were some of Jared's sleigh-of-hand to help his family's investments


     
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  7. SamFisher

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    Quid pro quo posto is ok - it is known
     
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    je prefere quid pro del Frisco.
     
  9. Amiga

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    Why would anyone loan $2B to a guy that failed on a nearly $2B project just a few years ago? A project that Kushner and the Trump family members were able to seek bailout while they were in the position to influence policies over the States they were seeking an emergency bailout.

    Kushner and Trump supported a Saudi-led blockade of Qatar (overruling the State and DoD stands at the time) after failing to secure financing from Qatari Finance Minster to pay his 1.5B mortgage on a failed condo in NYC. Then right around when Brookfield Asset Manage (partially owned by the Qatari government) agreed to take over the failed project, the Trump admin tells the Saudis to end the blockade.


    https://www.business-standard.com/a...ookfield-to-inject-700-mn-118080500009_1.html

    The Kushner family’s real estate company has secured a crucial investment in its over-leveraged New York skyscraper, reaching a deal to lease the building’s office space for 99 years to a Canadian asset manager.

    The arrangement with Brookfield Asset Management may let Kushner — run by the family of presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner — salvage its biggest single investment, a marquee tower in midtown Manhattan known simply by its address, 666 Fifth Avenue Terms weren’t disclosed.

    The Kushner family’s years-long hunt for a partner has at times drawn intense public scrutiny, as talks opened with overseas investors, then ultimately collapsed.

    Rather than pay the rent on an annual basis for the so-called leasehold, Brookfield will give Kushner Cos an upfront sum that will allow the company to pay off outstanding debt on the building, according to people with knowledge of the matter who asked not to be identified because the details are private.

    The Toronto-based investor is prepared to inject up to $700 million in equity and will essentially take control of the building unencumbered with a 100 per cent leasehold, the people said. A Brookfield representative declined to comment.

    The deal provides relief to Kushner Cos, which bought the 41-story tower for a record-setting $1.8 billion in 2007, making a splashy entrance to the Manhattan real estate scene. The transaction was funded with more than $1.7 billion of loans, and rapidly ran into trouble when property markets cratered following the financial crisis. In 2011, Vornado Realty Trust took a 49.5 per cent stake as part of a deal to rework the massive debt load and stave off foreclosure.


    The building lost $25 million last year and has almost always been unprofitable.
     
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    Vicky Ward, for those that don't know, is an investigative journalist. Her substack here goes after why... doesn't add up but she's not a nobody so..


    https://vickyward.substack.com/p/exclusive-the-real-reason-jared-kushner?s=w

    On Monday, I wrote about the staggering sum of $2 billion entrusted by the Saudi investment fund PIF to Jared Kushner’s new fund, Affinity Partners—reportedly at the behest of Saudi Crown Prince MBS over objections by a panel of financial advisers who highlighted Kushner’s lack of track record. I reported that the money was possibly both an IOU for sympathetic foreign policy led by Kushner during the Trump years and also a bet by MBS on a return to the White House by Kushner’s father-in-law, Donald Trump.

    Since then, I’ve learned that what’s at the heart of this potentially reveals the reason Kushner was denied a top-secret security clearance by the CIA.

    I’m told it was Kushner and Kushner’s allies who blocked top-level U.S. government support for MBS’s cousin, former Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Nayef (MBN)—a long-time intelligence and counter-terrorist asset for the U.S.—when MBN attempted a legal coup d’état in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 2017. MBN believed he had enough support from the so-called “Council of Ministers” to back him in a regime change.

    If successful, both King Salman and MBS (then deputy crown prince) would have been unseated and replaced by MBN. My sources tell me it was Kushner and his allies in the White House who got word to MBS of bin Nayef’s plans, and the plot was abruptly stopped. (As I’ve mentioned before, a spokesperson for Kushner has denied passing on intelligence to the Saudis).

    But, according to three sources with knowledge, it was this meddling in Saudi royal affairs that caused U.S. intelligence officials to go “apoplectic” and prevent Kushner from getting a top-level security clearance.

    MBN has not been heard from since his arrest in March 2020, when he was imprisoned somewhere in Saudi Arabia. Sporadic reports of his health have not been good, to put it mildly.

    According to Bruce Riedel, a former C.I.A. officer and senior fellow of both intelligence and Middle East policy at Brookings who has known MBN, it was “highly plausible” that Kushner was “paid off” for getting MBN out of the way.

    It’s a view I’ve heard echoed by three other sources in the intelligence community who are experienced in the region and who dealt with Kushner.

    “MBN remains the most likely successor, if MBS was ever moved out of the way, despite being in prison for three years now,” says Riedel. “He is a genuine national hero. He risked his life more than once to fight Al-Qaeda and delivered. And I think he became an opponent of the war [in] Yemen. And of course the war [in] Yemen is MBS’s signature foreign policy. I've always wondered why the agency was reluctant to give Jared top-secret clearance, and spilling intelligence to the Saudis [about MBN] would be a reason.”

    What is already known from public records and reports is that, in May 2017, the Saudi ministry to the interior (Nayef’s purview) hired the D.C. firm of Trump-friendly lobbyist Robert Stryk for $5.4 million to work for bin Nayef and provide “broad advisory services including public relations and media engagement as well as public affairs counsel along with marketing and outreach as pertaining to the United States.” (Stryk filed a FARA (Foreign Rights Registration Act) disclosure.) This was just weeks after MBS—then only deputy crown prince—paid a visit to the White House in March, where he reportedly met with Trump and, separately, Kushner. It was also just weeks before King Salman stripped MBN of the Crown Prince title and gave it instead to MBS.

    What has not been reported is that, during this time period, MBN told people he believed that Kushner and MBS had formed an “alliance” of some sort that involved getting rid of him. MBN reportedly felt he needed to act preemptively and wanted to make sure he retained top U.S. government support in the event he staged a coup d’état to usurp both King Salman, whom he believed was mentally incompetent, and MBS, whom he thought was dangerous.

    According to someone with knowledge of MBN’s thinking, “He basically wanted the U.S. to tell the Saudis that if they ****ed with him, they’d be ****ing with all the U.S.-Saudi bilateral agreements.”

    MBN knew he had the backing of the U.S. intelligence community, who loved him. In 2017, then-CIA director Mike Pompeo had even awarded him a medal for saving American lives. But MBN also believed that Kushner and MBS were working against him. He even told people that he figured there was some sort of financial arrangement between Kushner and MBS that would eventually be revealed, if their plan was to work.

    MBN’s alleged palace coup effort was stymied, however, before it ever began. King Salman and MBS allegedly learned of what was afoot—my sources believe from Kushner or people close to him—at warp speed. “The Kushner machine went into action,” a source told me. And the U.S. did nothing to help MBN when he was deposed and replaced by MBS a month later.

    Subsequently, on March 6, 2020, MBN was arrested and charged with treason (which he denied) and has not been heard from since. He has literally been “disappeared.” Meanwhile, his chief aide, Saad bin Khalid Aljabri, fled to Canada.

    According to Bruce Riedel, the treatment of a senior royal like this is unprecedented, even in Saudi Arabia: “There’s been reports with pretty gruesome details of knives and torture [about MBN]. All of this is just not the Saudi Arabia that existed for the last hundred years, I can't think of a single case of a royal prince being arrested and put in jail, not one. Maybe there are one or two junior princesses who got in trouble over drugs or something who were put in rehab. But the notion that a member of the royal family—who let alone is a former crown prince—would be put in prison and basically vanish from the face of the earth is… That's not how the royal family operates.”

    Nor is what allegedly happened normally how the U.S. government works. Which might go some way toward explaining why senior intelligence officials prevented Kushner from getting a top security clearance.

    Unlike Mohammed bin Salman, Mohammed bin Nayef was a huge intelligence asset to the U.S. He was viewed as a moderate—someone the U.S. “deep state” wanted to work with as the ruler of Saudi Arabia.

    “He gave us the flight plan and the code for bombs that were being sent by commercial industries into the United States,” Riedel told me. “Intelligence never gets more actionable than that. I mean: the flight number that the bomb is coming on. That's about as good as it gets.”

    Further, bin Nayef was well-liked within the council of ministers, unlike MBS, and he was a moderate.

    “Saudi Arabia was never a nice place. It was never a democracy, but it was not a repressive police state like this. And, certainly, members of the royal family were never ever imprisoned, nor were senior people in the business world. I mean, that just didn't happen,” says Riedel referring to the round-ups by MBS of business people, members of the royal family, and former government ministers in 2017 in the Ritz Carlton hotel in Riyadh. “If King Salman dies, I think it’s questionable if MBS is the automatic successor. I think he literally would be prepared to use force to compel them [the council of princes]. But there are going to be some who are going to say, No, he's a poor choice. He's misrun the government. He got us involved endless war in Yemen that cost a fortune and ended up with the Iranians winning. He's shaken down members of the royal family at the hotel. I think there's a lot more animosity against MBS than is often portrayed. And he becomes much more vulnerable once daddy's no longer political cover for him. And the person he's most vulnerable to is Mohammed bin Nayef.”
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    This is literally selling influence! lol.
     
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    Triangle logo needs an Eye of Providence.
     
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    JFC

    Maybe its a joint venture between Cyberdyne Systems, Umbrella Corporation and Weyland Corp.
     
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