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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Amiga

    Amiga Member

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    I don't care about the mask mandate on public transportation. The Admin was considering to drop it anyway.

    WSJ editor board is bias macho. Not reading them is good. Here is a more neutral reporting.

    U.S. Stops Mask Requirement on Planes After Judge’s Ruling (2) (bloomberglaw.com)

    Judge’s Qualifications
    Mizelle, formerly an attorney with Jones Day, was the eighth federal judge confirmed during the Trump administration to be rated “not qualified” by the American Bar Association based on experience.
     
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  2. Os Trigonum

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    no, reading a diversity of editorial perspectives is good
     
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  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Our country club is owned by a doctor. When COVID was first here, they stayed open but took measures to try and keep things safe.

    For example, only one person per cart even if family. My wife and I and others (apparently we're all pathetic) followed that rule. They then went to family could ride together and as things became more known, anyone could ride together. They quit scrambles for a while because there were to many people in close proximity.

    They slowly opened up their bar and restaurant. They had take out, but you could eventually sit outside and eat and finally back to full service. Masks were required in the clubhouse, but were phased out for customers.

    All that being said, for a long time they were the only entity open for recreational activities like golf and tennis. So, folks felt a lot more comfortable going there maskless as things abated.
     
  4. Amiga

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    Excellent point. You should stop reading and posting WSJ-only pronto.
     
  5. Os Trigonum

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    I post plenty from the NYT, WaPo, and CNN. how about you?
     
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  6. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    How about... The Federalist? Powerlineblog for spice? :D
     
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  7. Os Trigonum

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    careful B-Bob, you'll end up in the beefing posters thread ;)
     
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  8. Amiga

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    You do sprinkle those in. Good job.

    This isn't about me, it's about you. But I do read posts from Os. That got to count, right :p
     
  9. Os Trigonum

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    why is it about me?
     
  10. Amiga

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    Because of a famous quote I heard on D&D.

    "it's always about Os Trigonum"
     
  11. ThatBoyNick

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    I'd say the countries that suppressed mass spread long enough until vaccines were made readily available did relatively well. It doesn't stop the population from eventually getting the virus, but it does lower the death risk for many people once they do. A number of countries did well at a government level, and got lucky enough, to have relatively low death and severe disease amongst their people.

    Correct in a way, I'd say in my opinion, it's dependent on how many people they were able to prevent getting sick before vaccines were made readily available.

    This seems like typical overdramatic demonization of government. I get it, not everyone likes to live in a house that has an HOA. I wish we could dedicate a state in this country to be completely ungoverned so that many thousands, maybe even millions of dreams could come true, but at last, we don't have that.

    There is a balance that every people have to take, between security and freedom. Personally, I think Norway/Denmark did a pretty good job at this balance. Had reasonable restrictions in place until the vaccines were readily available for a reasonable amount of time, and then scrapped everything. Makes sense to me.
     
  12. MojoMan

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    Did you see how the current regime in Washington got slapped down for their overreach by the SCOTUS yesterday, yet again?
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    What SCOTUS decision was made yesterday affecting the Federal government?
     
  14. NewRoxFan

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    mojoman was confusing the trump-appointed unqualified judge's decision for the republican scotus...
     
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    I think a lot of the "measures" in country clubs and other private establishments were done mostly out of fear of getting sued, and to placate those who were influenced by the fear propaganda. Not because people were really that convinced it would make any difference. But given the fear propaganda, you could at least say "we did something".

    TBH, that's how I felt about the mask mandate in our office (which I had to "officially" back and "be a good example and wear the mask in the office", even though I came around to thinking it was ridiculous Covid theater).
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    One of the reasons they were putting people in carts by themselves is because they were being watched by sheriff and police officers to make sure they were following guidelines at the time. They were being extra careful and rather than having to explain that the two people were married, they thought it simplest to have 1 person per cart.

    Florida had some really dumb rules at the beginning, even under your favorite governor. For example, boats had to maintain at least 50 feet of distance between other boats. This was especially annoying when tying up together at sand bars and beaches. Meanwhile I could have 12 unmasked people in my boat.

    And also, to be fair, a lot of stuff was still unknown in 2020, so it was clearly advantageous to be better safe than sorry.

    Assuming the exact same spread, hospitalizations and death occurred and the CDC and federal and state governments hadn't imposed any mandates or guidelines, don't you think people would have been vilifying them for doing nothing?
     
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    Rode the bus today. The digital marquee on the buses still say "Mask Up" but I didn't see the paper sign that says "Mask up to ride." All the passengers still wore masks as did the bus driver (with nose poking out, of course).

    I'd say rich people are more likely to think the rules don't apply to them. Walmart shoppers appreciate the benefit of cooperative action whereas the country club set thinks rules are the Walmart people but smart people like them can and should get a competitive advantage by making their own rules. Reminds me of the social experiment of selling bagels in the office with the honor system -- floors with wage workers made sure to pay and the till on floors with executives always ran short.
     
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    Looks like @Deckard was right - should have tried harder to keep this loon off the bench (she was confirmed after Trump already lost).
     
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    https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/d-d-coronavirus-thread.303988/page-638#post-14055247
     
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