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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. tallanvor

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    This isnt a virtue. Its pathetic.
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    It's pathetic that even though I disagree with a rule and am ready for it to end, that I follow it?

    Well... call me pathetic.
     
  3. tallanvor

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    Yes . Its even more pathetic u brag about it
     
  4. durvasa

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    I'm sort of the same, and I appreciate you looking out for others. I understand where public officials are coming from, trying to manage risk as best they can to reduce outbreaks, and it hasn't been difficult for me to follow their guidance and try to avoid contributing to an outbreak. If masking mandates are going away on flights and trains, I'm still going to pay attention to what most experts are recommending and follow that. Hopefully people are smart about testing before they go to airports, especially if they feel they have any symptoms.
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    How is factually explaining what I do, bragging?

    Also, should I disobey the mask rule and not be able to fly or go to shows?

    We were in Hawaii in November of 2020. They were just opening up. You needed a negative test within 72 hours of arrival.

    One of the rules at our resort (and I believe all of them) is that you had to be masked when laying around the pool, but not if you were in the pool. So, 8 people could be unmasked in the hot tub, but I couldn't lay on a lounge 50 feet from everyone without a mask. Was that a dumb rule? Yes. Did I wish they didn't have that rule? Yes. Did I follow that rule? Yes. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to hang out at the pool.

    Was that pathetic? If so, what would you suggest I do?
     
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  6. MojoMan

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    There is no way to stop people from getting covid. The so-called "vaccines" certainly did not protect someone from getting the virus. Supposedly they mitigated the symptoms to some degree, but they did not provide immunity.

    So how well a particular government did in "handling" the spread of the disease was not dependent on how many people actually got it, or will get it. Rather, those governments that tried to leverage the spread of the virus to increase their sense of domination and control over their citizens through lockdowns and various mandates are the governments that handled this badly. Certainly ours would be near the top of that infamous list.
     
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    It was interesting, I went to a Walmart today for the first time in years - the majority of people were wearing masks. At the country club - basically nobody.
     
  8. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Shoot... being in Florida, there are a lot of old people. We are 64 and literally there may be 1 or 2 families younger than us at Mass every Sunday. I'm just being as careful as possible when I can. And why anyone cares if I wear a mask at church or the grocery store is beyond me.
     
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  9. MojoMan

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    There are no "experts" with regards tho either this virus, nor are there any effective, legitimate vaccines for this virus.
     
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  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Welcome to Florida. (I assume you're here). That's how it's been. I feel like I should always have worn a mask in Walmart, even pre-COVID. :)
     
  11. durvasa

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    Wrong on both counts.
     
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  12. AroundTheWorld

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    Thanks. My conclusion is rather that people with lower socio-economic status and education tend to be more easily manipulated by propaganda of fear.
     
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  13. tinman

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    Like non contributing members of Clutchfans .. I mean society
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Kimball_Mizelle

    The American Bar Association (ABA) rated Mizelle "Not Qualified" by a majority and "Qualified" by a minority of the Standing Committee on the Federal Judiciary to serve as a federal trial court judge,[15] noting that "Since her admission to the bar Ms. Mizelle has not tried a case, civil or criminal, as lead or co-counsel."[16] Before her appointment, the nominee had only taken part in two trials — both one-day trials in a state court conducted while she was still in law school.[7] Mizelle had eight years of legal experience at the time of her nomination;[16] the ABA typically requires 12 years to give a nominee a rating of "Qualified". The ABA said Mizelle "has a very keen intellect, a strong work ethic and an impressive resume... her integrity and demeanor are not in question."[17] But, the committee wrote, "These attributes... simply do not compensate for the short time she has actually practiced law and her lack of meaningful trial experience."[16]
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-ma...ration-11650318701?mod=hp_opin_pos_2#cxrecs_s

    The Biden Mask Mandate Goes Down
    A federal judge says the CDC exceeded its statutory authority.
    By The Editorial Board
    Updated April 18, 2022 8:04 pm ET

    This has been a rough few months for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Covid-19 orders. First its eviction moratorium went down last year. On Monday it lost again, as a federal judge blocked the agency’s mask mandate on airlines and other forms of public transportation (Health Freedom Defense Fund v. Biden).

    Judge Kathryn Kimball Mizelle ruled that the CDC exceeded its statutory authority and never clearly explained its justification for the broad mask mandate, among other legal infirmities. It’s a strong opinion based in a careful reading of the Public Health Service Act of 1944, which was the basis for the CDC’s order.

    Judge Mizelle says the agency stretched the meaning of the word “sanitation” in the law, which was never intended to justify such sweeping control over the behavior of millions of Americans. She quotes the words of Jeff Sutton, Chief Judge of the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, in the vaccine mandate case that “this is no ‘everyday exercise of federal power.’”

    It certainly isn’t, which helps to justify the judge’s national injunction in the mask case. National injunctions should be rare, but it would be hard to narrow, by geography or type of transport, a nationwide mask requirement for all public transportation.

    The ruling comes when the mask mandate is a waning health necessity, if it ever was. The CDC recently extended it until May 3, and it is increasingly unpopular with passengers and airline executives as Covid-19 becomes endemic and less lethal. Rather than appeal the ruling and risk a broader defeat, the CDC would be wiser to drop it.

    The Biden Administration should also hire more lawyers who understand that the courts are looking more closely at sweeping federal orders that lack clear statutory justification. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration lost its vaccine mandate case at the Supreme Court. President Biden may want to govern with a pen and a phone, a la Barack Obama, but he’ll suffer more legal defeats without a clear command from a law written by Congress.

    Correction: An earlier version misstated the agency that imposed the vaccine mandate.
    Appeared in the April 19, 2022, print edition as 'The Mask Mandate Goes Down.'







     
  18. NewRoxFan

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    Or... the people that go to country clubs in FL tend to have been trump supporters. Something you probably can relate to...
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    I doubt it. They seem quite educated. Seems like 80% Jewish, from looking at the names, and a few celebrities. I like it. Admittedly not very racially diverse, I guess I'm making it more diverse!

    P.S.: Actually, when I was house-hunting, apparently, in this country, you can see what party the previous owners voted for (very weird to me). That was mostly Democrat.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    I've been for the lifting of mask mandates and I might be flying again as soon as next week and will be fine not wearing a mask. All of that said it doesn't mean that mask have no effectiveness and have no problem with anyone who still wants to wear a mask nor with any private business that wants people to wear a mask.

    To follow on some other points made and with the "polarized thread". Things like wearing mask have not only exposed a problem with our culture but exacerbating it. Yes people don't agree about a lot of things but really wearing a mask isn't that big of a thing, especially when just going shopping for an hour or so in a store. I just consider it common courtesy to wear a mask at a private business even if I don't think it's not necessary anymore.

    You can disagree with something yet still be agreeable. The fact that people were literally willing to fight others over in many cases not a government requirement but a private business shows how deep problems are.
     
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