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Elon vs Twitter update: Elon helped America win , Tesla stock through the roof

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Mar 26, 2022.

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Who is for democracy?

  1. Elon

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  2. Twitter

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  3. Chinese democracy by Guns N Roses

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    27.1%
  1. rocketsjudoka

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    I don't think he will and in his TED Talk he did say there should be less moderation he didn't say there should be none. He also didn't rule out banning people .

    I think all of those on the Right praising Musk now are because of something I mentioned in another thread. It's about owning the opposition. For most of Musk's career he's been pilloried by the Right. He's been criticized for the amount of government aid that Tesla has gotten and for his views and actions regarding climate change and how technology might change society. Social conservatives have criticized his views on drug legalization.

    It's very ironic that many of the same people who either don't believe Climate Change is happening or the extent it's happening are now celebrating Musk when the core of his work has been about developing new technologies to address Climate Change and even working in partnership with governments to do so.
     
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  2. Os Trigonum

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    it's hilarious actually. If I could make this forum All Hunter Biden All the Time I would surely do that . . . for the laughs
     
  3. deb4rockets

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    You post about the Bidens and Democrats all the time! The only ones laughing are those like you who think everything Democratic is "woke" and bad and everything coming from the right is true and good.
     
  4. Os Trigonum

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    you don’t know what I think
     
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    Do tell. I have five questions for you.

    Do you believe there are Democrats worthy of beating Trump or any other Republican who might be the top pick for the party?

    Have you ever voted for a Democrat as President?

    Do you believe that some of the policies proposed by Democrats voted no to by Republicans are good policies?

    Do you see a huge change in the GOP party since Trump, Green, Gaetz, Boebert, Cruz, and the rest started spewing Trump Won and Stop the Steal as they called it?

    Do you believe trying to instill the loser of the popular vote as President by any means possible is a threat to Democracy?

    Just wondering what you really do think. Maybe I had you wrong after all and you are just posting stuff to stir up debates.
     
  6. MojoMan

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    Of course there would still be restrictions. Neither Elon Musk or anyone else with their brain turned on has proposed or even desired for Twitter to be converted into a platform that is literally "without restrictions".

    However, the current crew running Twitter is a complete disgrace and Elon Musk is right not to have any confidence in those hyper-partisan deranged clowns.
     
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  7. Os Trigonum

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    definitely

    my whole life starting with Carter

    this is a vague question

    I don't pay attention to the GOP, honestly I don't really care much about the GOP. I will say I've seen a HUGE change in the Democratic Party since 1980.

    I don't even know what this question is asking. again, a vague question.

    no, you probably still had me right all along but who knows what you think
     
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  8. MojoMan

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    If that is what Musk wanted, he would be cheering the current leadership of Twitter and shouting 'steady as she goes'. This is precisely what they routinely are doing now on a constant, daily basis.
     
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    That's interesting - didn't he vote unanimously along with the others with regard to the poison pill?
     
  10. deb4rockets

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    I have seen fact checks posted on lies. I have seen people banned for abusive posts towards others. Some do get away with spreading toxic posts longer than others though, especially if they have a huge following. That I completely disagree with. Some get banned for only a day or two and start up again. They can't be biased on that. I just wondered if Musk would remove all twitter rules meant to impose a safer forum in the name of free speech. Hopefully not. There are plenty of forums for hate groups and crazies to spew their toxins freely outside Twitter.
     
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    Do you agree with the banning of Babylon Bee?
     
  12. deb4rockets

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    I agree, that the Democrats have changed, and don't agree with all their ideas but the GOP has become more radical in a very bad way. Division and hate against the left is much more vocalized now. I have more trust in the promise of change in a good way than what I see coming from the right. It seems much more focused on things that aren't helping most Americans.


    When I asked if you believe trying to instill the loser of the popular vote as President is a threat to Democracy I was referring to the planning and execution of a coup to put Trump back in and overthrow Biden.
     
  13. deb4rockets

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    I have no idea. I don't read their posts. Like I said, I think some people get away with more than others and I am in support of everyone getting the same treatment for breaking their rules. There are probably thousands who get away with the same stuff others get banned for. That is ridiculous.

    I see it on both party sides and from all different type posts from ordinary citizens to the rich and powerful.
     
  14. Os Trigonum

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    fair enough. no, not a big threat to democracy. I don't believe there was ever a snowball's chance in hell that riot was ever going to get anywhere, and it's delusional to think it was. Pre-meditated or not, pre-planned or not, it was doomed before it even started.
     
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    So in other words a Musk run Twitter won't be changing much at all.
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    Considering several Capitol PD were wounded and it indirectly led to the death of the some Capitol PD, that rioters made it to the floor of the Senate and Congressional offices were they stole potentially sensitive information, that several members of Congress and the VP were in some cases one wrong turn from running into the mob who were chanting for death, and that even with that more than a 100 members of Congress still voted to not certify I'm not sure what it would take you to take it seriously.
     
  17. Os Trigonum

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    the question was about it being "a threat to democracy." I responded to THAT claim. You are misdirecting again by saying that I am arguing against the RIOT being taken seriously. You are once again employing a strawman. I was responding to deb, not anticipating your next debate team rhetorical move.

    if you would like to ask me about whether the riot should be taken seriously, go ahead and ask me.

    I will save you the time and I will answer now: yes, the riot should be taken seriously.

    But then again I think ALL RIOTS SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. Including the ones in Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle, Madison, and elsewhere. They are NOT MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTESTS.

    but again, the conversation I was having was with deb.
     
  18. durvasa

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    The riot was crazy, particularly since it was egged on by the former President, and there was apparently a real threat of violence against members of Congress, but I agree there wasn't much of a chance of it actually overturning the election. The "big threat to democracy" was more the various planning that was going on to throw out the election results and manufacture legal reasons to keep Trump in office irrespective of the voting results.
     
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    What if next time they manage to change the electoral votes in their favor? I just wonder how far they would go and don't trust them.
     

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