Poverty here doesn't compare to poverty there. You think fifth Ward is like Africa? Out your damn liberal mind. Again America is the only wealthy nation in the top 10. Dont waste my damn time comparing Africa to fifth ward. It's a sin during this holy week wasting our precious little God given gift of time. Then you got the nerve to say I didn't explain Africa. Did you type that in all seriousness? America considering wealth and murder rate is in its own damn category
I think you visit Venezuela and explain how the hell you aren't smart enough not to compare it to here
While I haven't visited Venezuela I've seen public schools in other poor countries and seen public schools in the inner city, and can say with no doubt, you have done neither. You are speaking out of total ignorance and that is why we can't have a product debate. You simply don't have an accurate picture of reality here. Go visit an inner city public school and then come back and say they have enough money. Until then you really need to STFU.
Yeah you are not hearing what I am saying but reinterpreting it falsely to make yourself feel good, let's stop arguing and wasting each other's time. I don't think you are actually interested in learning a single god damn thing.
I live in fifth ward. Every school around here has been remodeled in the last fifteen years How about over there?
You're blaming poverty. You're comparing crime to poor countries. The problem is America is the wealthiest nation. It's an anamoly. What happens in countries with real poverty doesn't have **** to do with American poverty which is a standard based on an average or whatever the hell the poverty line is. Whatever it is it ain't **** like India which doesn't have near our murder rate. A kid doesn't carjacking out of poverty. It's a stupid ass comparison all the way around
Go back and reread what i've written in this thread. If you do, you will be realizing what I am actually trying to say vs what you are trying to make me say so you can disagree.
You said crime follows poverty as evidenced by other countries did you not? Do you think poverty here is like the Dominican Republic?
Dominican Republic has a very high murder rate. I said poverty is a major factor, but not the only one. That this is complex and involves a lot of factors but poverty is definitely a big part of it.
Poverty in poor countries is different. The problem here with crime as far as crime for economic gain is that America takes care of poor children. Poor kids have food housing and better health insurance than you. Kids feel hopelessness because they can't get a pair of $200 sneakers and liberals exacerbate the problem by justifying their liberalism by talking about how bad it is evidenced by you comparing poverty here to poor nations
This is a warped sense of reality you have. Honestly, it's just really sad you view things this way. Explains a lot.
I'm grounded enough not to compare poverty here to places people pay smugglers to leave. You can't answer what it is about American poverty that leads to murder. I'm talking murder, don't give a damn about other crimes. When combining wealth America is in a league of its own. Ita black American isaue. It's about materialism. Kids used to kill over Jordan's so miss me which your snide remarks about my sneakers comment
All you says is they are correlated. Of course they are correlated, there are a lot poor blacks. Okay one of your articles says being segregated leads to a street oppositional culture. I definitely agree that the mentality of being hard and confrontational is a thing. These are broken home problems. Kids are rebellious. You have young men with not enough discipline to tell them that mentality is short lived. It out in the streets they're following others who aren't being taught adequately. The government can't fix this
So you're trying to say it's hopeless, they should be left to rot because no one can do anything, right? Well I disagree complete. I have given solutions on here numerous times again and again - and I've seen it work first hand. You just don't want to see it because you are so dug in to your narrative.
Typical liberal. Because the government can't fix it , it must be hopeless. The government has been trying to fix the ghetto since the war o poverty began. It can only do so much The focus has to shift to fixing the homes internally. Hispanics come here with family structure. It's not just about immigration. Native Americans are poorer than blacks. Don't have the murder rate though. The focus needs to shift to reducing ghetto dysfunction. The government can help , but everyone needs to stop blaming everything else but the homes
That's not what I said. Ridiculous. You have no solution but to say blacks should magically become hispanic.
So Hispanics doing better is biological? It's not about Hispanics. I just compare to Hispanics because people say they are discriminated against and there is very real backlash against them being here. They are doing better and face more outward racism. This is the key , do you ever hear them talk about it? They have more stable homes On another note Native Americans are poorer than blacks. Lower murder rate. What's your excuse for that?
Nobody cares, especially the federal government. (old) https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/21/...ions-higher-crime-and-fewer-prosecutions.html (new) https://www.thebarkumd.com/voices/2...issing-at-higher-rates-than-other-populations lots of recent data: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/ss/ss7008a1.htm additional recent articles: google "native americans and violent crime"
...Geronimo was the last major Native American tribe leader...when did he finally get caught and sent to a federal prison camp (ooops...reservation)? Late 1890's? 1910? 1920? Somewhere thereabouts? ...there aren't as many Native Americans around as there were a hundred years or so ago...less of them to target and go after. Supply and demand. Market solution. Stuff like that. You know how it is. ...and you're right...the next time anybody seriously gives any kind of a damn about Native Americans in any fashion will be the first time...
