Elon vs Twitter update: Elon helped America win , Tesla stock through the roof

If you equate content moderation as control over what people can say. I certainly don't and think that's a pretty extreme rewording.

I think there is a difference between the two. Can't we agree that stopping the use of profanity doesn't hurt the expression of political ideas as example? (not advocating that profanity should be banned).

But a for-profit platform should be able to moderate based on pre-set rules in order to make it a place all sides can come to. People act like content moderation is some socialist construct when it's not, it's capitalist. There are entities out there that have created a moderation free platform such as GAB. It seems to me the right wants to impose socialism on Twitter by saying you have to abide by our ideas of free speech even if it costs you money - in other words, our values should trump how you decide to run your company and increase shareholder values.

That's socialism.

 

I disagree. Deciding that spread of false information is bad and should be harder to do, in general, than spreading true information doesn’t necessarily require you imposing your views on what is true and what is false on others.

A upvote/downvote system in certain platforms, for example, can make higher quality posts more visible than lower quality posts, without requiring a site owner to impose their judgment on what is high quality versus low quality.

 

No they don't.

Southwestern Bell is not responsible for monitoring whether you use your phone line to arrange a murder.

 

It does, by definition.

 

If they are profiting off a product they are selling that is significantly increasing the frequency of murders, then yes they are morally responsible .

 

Why does every Republican and conservative grifter want Musk to take over or take down Twitter? Things are popping at Truth Social. Will probably surpass Twitter in a few months, making all this moot.

 

Then you don’t have a problem with how Twitter and FaceBook are designed to create echo chambers of false information? This is just an inevitable feature of “free speech” that we should accept, because anything else would somehow be totalitarian?

It seems that’s where your line of thinking leads, but I don’t think you actually believe that.

 

The funny thing is all these conservative hot takes about Twitter censorship are happening or being promoted on … Twitter.

 

I don't know if any of them really believe it. The example of Muslim extremism or jihadists is a good one that they do not wish to address...because it's true.

No American blinks an eye if a Jihadist is banned

Twitter has banned millions of such accounts, for good reason, they spread lies, misinformation, and actively recruit people on twitter. Most people agree it is good that these people aren't on twitter anymore.

 

2 notes.

1. I am not a religious person. But it's Easter weekend so I will oblige. Based on what I know. If I had to guess. I'd put my money on Elon Musk as being the Antichrist. He just... seems to fit the bill. Enjoy your neurolinks.
   
2. Why do conservatives always fall in love with rich white dudes? It's weird.

$54.20 for a share. Lulz on you.

 

Look , regardless of musk.. can we ban twitter from clutchfans ?

I’m in clutchfans dark ok ...I don’t need half the page to be while quoting some tweet from some self-important ******* who’s opinion is just as informed as mine . And I’m sure in most cases less

Elon is cray cray , did you hear he smoked weed on joe Rogan ? He’s pretty good at corporate eh ?

couldn’t care less .

 

Elon is the most successful African-American.

 

In my case, I'm willing to entertain the idea that such people shouldn't be banned on a hypothetical platform in which their lies/misinformation are not amplified. But social media platforms like Twitter are designed to do exactly that by enabling large communities of like-minded people to create closed networks that promote rapid and unchecked spread of blatantly false information. This is highly damaging to societies. Sweeping it under the rug like it's not actually a huge problem, in the name of "free speech", is just crazy to me.

These platforms should endeavor to make fundamental changes to how they're setup to avoid proliferation of these huge echo chambers in which misinformation thrives. In the meantime, I'm fine with enforcing terms of service that defines what forms of harassment or abuse will not be tolerated for people who want to use Twitter or tagging tweets that contain false information as such.

 

This is an inevitable feature of having totalitarian minded leftists that have appointed themselves the arbiters of what is acceptable to think and say according to the needs of whatever propaganda narrative they are promoting at any given moment, running Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc..

The people running Twitter, Google, Facebook, etc. are not in any way interested in providing a forum for the open dissemination of the truth, as their frequent blocking of true information that contradicts their prevailing leftist narratives has routinely demonstrated. To Democrat leftists, including the people running Twitter, Google, Facebook, etc,, the term "misinformation" means any information that is contrary to the political/social narrative they are trying to promote at any particular time, regardless of how deceitful, scientifically baseless and wrong, or misleading those messages are.

The censorious practices of Twitter and the rest are not an indication of their commitment to promoting free speech. That is absurdly deceitful and the routine, coordinated suggestion of it can fairly be described as gaslighting. Those people are clearly the enemies of free speech, not the champions of it.

 

Twitter did/does try this, it used the labeling system to let people know if something might be fake news...but you are right, it does push people in echo chambers. Follow a liberal, it'll suggest you follow other liberals. I don't think they designed it this way but that's how it works. More innocent ways suggestions and such are used are...follow Xbox and it'll suggest you follow Halo. Follow the NBA and it'll suggest you follow Lebron, etc etc, it's trying to push you towards things you are interested in but in this case it'll just push you to follow more people that are politically like you. Next thing you know, you've followed nothing but people that agree with you and that becomes your entire feed.

In the end I think most people are for some kind of moderation and just don't realize it.

p*rn is another example too. It is explicitly protected under the 1st amendment, we've had an entire SCOTUS case about p*rn being free speech. Yet, many platforms (funnily enough not Twitter) outright ban it. It makes sense too, people don't want to just randomly stroll upon a pair of boobies...i mean, some people don't or randomly see some dude stroking his...but the point is someone seeing sexually explicit acts can ruin their day, mood, etc...that's the same for people seeing random hate speech, it's mentally disturbing for many people, and that's part of the reason it's banned.

I think twitter in this way should handle political accounts much like they do p*rn accounts. Differently. Not completely separate them from the platform but they should make it so you're always seeing the counterargument. I'm not sure how they would do this, I'm not in the business of designing websites, but you are right, it does create echo chambers for both sides and then you have the system of people trying to get likes and attention because you could literally become pretty wealthy for tweeting opinions. You can get a whole brand off of it...so that's another thing that's poured into that mix.

I'm not sure what Elon will do to fix that. I honestly don't trust him to fix anything. It would be interesting to see how he deals with criticism because right now he's seen as David and he's fighting Goliath. Once/if he owns twitter he becomes Goliath on the platform and every issue people have with the platform will become his fault. Elon has a tendency to try and erase stories that don't favor him...so it'd be interesting to see how he holds to his free speech ideals when at least one whole side of the political spectrum will be targeting him.

 

Is the sequel going to be about Kushner's 2 Billion from the Saudis?

 

Lol, Facebook is a conservative boomer heaven...we even have data backing up...we even have Facebook executives outright saying their algo's favor conservatives...

 

Babylon Bee still banned on Twitter