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Top 6 Murder per Capita States are Red

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, Apr 8, 2022.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Capitalism failed when manufacturing jobs disappeared. But I guess you need to point the finger at liberalism so you can have something to direct your anger towards, right?
     
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    My theory is mine. It comes from being black and growing up with murdered and murderers and not being in denial about inner city dysfunction

    Anyway I posted it because I seriously was going to ask about pick up basketball
     
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    Liberalism is not the blame, it's obviously not the fix either
     
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    That's probably because liberalism is not an economic philosophy.

    An economic philosophy built around investing in the poor would certainly be smart unfortunately conservatives see that as a waste of money and big government
     
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    What is it about poverty that drives people to murder? A guy robs a gas station. The clerk hands over the money. He is killed any. Did poverty do that?
     
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    I've always wondered why many poor people don't murder, rob, or steal. What's their secret?
     
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    More pertinent than anger over our history, black people will never be alright with being behind in wealth

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    We have to be honest on the wealth gap. When people talk about red lining and not being able to buy in white neighborhoods, I always asks why can't property value in black neighborhoods increase?

    Going back to Detroit, blacks had houses. Baltimore is the first black city. It's home to America's first black middle class. Now it's a moot point as integration is complete but feeling a black neighborhood can't improve demonstrates a hopelessness about blacks

    Edit:The honesty is blacks have owned homes. Infamous ghettos didn't start as Infamous ghettos

    Poverty is linked to crime because black a "large" percentage of black people are poor. That being said a lot if not most of the crime is about materialism
     
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    It's not a simple picture and I've already addressed this. You go to any slum in any urban city around the world and it's a high crime area. Doesn't matter if it's Mexico City or Bombay. No, it's not just being poor, but that's a big part of it.
     
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    That is a terrible article trying to fight prejudice against people living in slums or impoverished areas.

    Reality is that slums are places where gangs can run free and conduct their criminal enterprises and victimize those who society forgets about.
     
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    why is it a terrible article?
     
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    the author of that essay disagrees with your generalization, specifically commenting: "Contrary to popular perceptions, many poor areas in cities of the South may even be considered relatively safe when compared to the daily robberies, burglaries and attacks experienced in many Western capital cities."
     
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    Actually there is no disagreement there. I'm specifically speaking to urban areas - you can see that if you look back

    Yes there are always exceptions - it is a generalization - but it is generally true. Crime concentrates in areas where there is going to be low police protection and property values - poor areas, that make for easy places to operate for gangs and organized crime and thus they set up shop there.
     
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    fair enough
     
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    I do think you have raised an important angle here though - that it's not just poverty that drives violence, but poverty plus something else - one big difference between poor blacks and poor whites is that poor whites tend to be more rural, and poor black are both rural and urban. If would be interesting to see the murder rates of blacks in urban vs rural settings.
     
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    This ain't Mexico City or Bombay. That's why Mexico Citians come here and appreciate it

    All black criminals and America doesn't have slums. You keep calling the inner city slums gherroans will feel justified to carjacking you and kill you. Liberal hyperbole is counter productive as well as false.. You keep telling black kids they won't be **** because the system is rigged it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy
     
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    @Os Trigonum

    I wrote the above post before reading the piece about "slums"
    The United States is the only wealthy nation in the top 10 of murder rates. Part of that is its easier to kill with guns.

    The other reason is liberals thinking and telling blacks they should be depressed for not having a bunch of meaningless crap whitey has, and really you will never have a bunch of meaningless crap because this country still hates you

    Black criminals, all criminals aren't necessarily poor. Everyone needs to recognize this country will not let poverty become harmful and does well by children. It can't throw money at schools with no help from parents. Our public schools aren't bare minimum. They can't be luxurious
     
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    I think you should go visit a public school in a poor area before you post.
     
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    This is gibberish / straw man type stuff. The only people telling black kids anything is you - saying they are going to murder other people at a higher rate for being who they are.

    You can't explain why poor urban Indians, Latin Americans, and Africans have higher crime rates, so you say it's doesn't matter because they want to come here? You are desperately trying to defend a racist position. Let go.
     

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