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  1. RKREBORN

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    Left states have been showing their true colors recently...
     
  2. Roscoe Arbuckle

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    So far this year. Written in the 3rd week of January.
     
  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Right... nothing in that article is false and it has nothing to do with murders in any other city except the 4 mentioned. You referenced an article from 2019 showing stats from all US cities which had nothing to do with the article you responded to.

    Plus, the article is discussing the number of murders and not the murder rate.

    You're arguing something the article wasn't concerned with.
     
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  4. Roscoe Arbuckle

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    No... I'm stating that Houston isn't in the top 4 in homicides. 3 weeks is an outlier. I literally posted that Houston wasn't in the top 25 just last year.

    Talk about bad reading comprehension.
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    You posted an article from 2021 using crime data from the 2019 FBI UCR and claimed them as crime statistics from this/last year.

    This is where the comprehension issues arose, and they weren't hard to decipher.
     
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  6. Roscoe Arbuckle

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    Most recent one I posted cites 2021 statistics. The article you are fighting about is a 3 week time frame. From a local station. Which I don't see cited anywhere else.

    And I already posted what I googled. I spent far more time trying to find that we are at the top of the list than any of you. But please, feel free to show me that Houston is even close to the top in 2022 US homicides as of April.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    If you're talking about the 2022 CBS article (my fault, I earlier said 2021), it is using FBI statistics from 2019, as has been pointed out. It literally says this in the opening paragraph:

    Here are murder rates in 65 major U.S. cities (cities with greater than 100,000 residents) for 2019. These rates are calculated using the latest statistics available — the FBI's 2019 Crime in the United States data, as well as data culled directly from city police officials and the U.S. Census Bureau.

    Your other (most recent?) "article" from housegrail.com ("reader supported", they brag), is using these as the only listed sources:
    I'm sorry, but you do really need better research and data than this.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Love NYC. I will add that Houston isn't exceptionally violent or intolerant either.
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Yes.. we can talk about your poor reading comprehension.

    Read the first effing paragraph in the article. All it says is that HOUSTON HAD MORE MURDERS AT THAT TIME THAN NYC, CHICAGO AND LA.

    It doesn't have anything to do with any other cities in the US except HOUSTON, NYC, CHICAGO and LA. It doesn't have anything to do with any of time frame than the first few weeks of this year.

    It is making a point about how many murders were in Houston the first few weeks of the year and that at that rate, murders would be in the 500 range for the year

    Your statistics don't disprove anything in that article, BECAUSE THE ARTICLE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OTHER CITY EXCEPT THOSE 4.

    You're either trolling or proving Chad's point.
     
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  10. Roscoe Arbuckle

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    For 3 weeks starting in January. How are you not comprehending that. Again, show me that statistic as of April.
     
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  11. Roscoe Arbuckle

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    Find a better one. I did more research than you did. Again, find me an article with Houston being close to leading homicides in the US as of April...
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    Halfway through March, there had been 100 homicides in the City of Houston (103 through the 16th). https://www.fox26houston.com/news/m...ted-so-far-in-2022-within-houston-city-limits

    There's your baseline (you're not going to get much more up-to-date than that), now check the top ~20 most populated cities in the US during that same time frame.

    Go research it and get back to us. You know how to work google, no?
     
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  13. Roscoe Arbuckle

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    Back to Fox26, which is apparently your go to. And that's roughly a 12% increase. Not good, but hardly an outrageous uptick.

    In contrast, 145 in Chicago, which is the closest to Houston in population...

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html
     
  14. Buck Turgidson

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    Chicago: 145 murders in 99 days (through 4/9, per Tribune article) = 1.465/day; population of 2.746M, per 2020 census = 19.47/100K
    Houston: 103 murders in 106 days (through 4/16, per fox26 article*) = 0.972/day; population of 2.305M, per 2020 census = 15.39/100K

    You have ~19 cities to go. Be sure and show your math.

    *I don't know what your quote about fox26 and "back to" and "all you have" means. This is the first time I've cited them in this thread. Sorry I couldn't find any pertinent articles at www.housegrift/coldcall.broad, or whatever site you were using earlier.
     
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  15. Rocket River

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    For the Record
    Your link takes me to a page with a bunch of articles and not statistics:
    Houston
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    Evidence of prostitution, human trafficking found at popular Houston nightclub, authorities say
    Officials say a multi-agency investigation at a popular Houston nightclub led to its bar permit being revoked after getting reports of human trafficking.

    1 hour ago
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    Man shot, killed by police after trespassing at Acres Homes business identified
    Authorities say Richard Nichols, 48, was known for carrying a weapon and threatening a nearby business. Police say they found the man hiding in a small room at the location and reached for a weapon.

    3 hours ago
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    Suspect charged in deadly shooting of 18-year-old in Houston last year
    Dalessandro Bou, 18, is charged with murder and tampering with evidence in the deadly shooting of an 18-year-old man in Houston last year.

    4 hours ago
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    Missing 80-year-old Houston man with dementia located
    Authorities say Freely Jenkins has been located after he was reported missing in Houston.


    Rocket River
     
  16. Rocket River

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    ALSO
    In a small sample size . . . you cannot make much of a determination of anything

    Rocket River
     
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  17. Sajan

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    I didn't see this until I realized I was ignoring **** by you.

    Regardless, what in the actual f**k are you talking about?

    I responded to someone who specifically said something about NY...and the headline LITERALLY makes my point very clear.
    DEADLY 2022: Houston leads Chicago, NYC, and LA in homicides so far this year

    It compares houston to 3 other cities. that's it. THAT'S IT. I didn't compare houston to anything else. the date the article was written was not in question. was it?

    Next time, fking read and don't bother quoting or responding to me. Fking dumbass.

    READING: DO IT BETTER.
     
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  18. Sajan

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    He went out of his way to point out the date for an article I posted and then proceeded to post an article with data from years ago that wasn't comparing the same thing at all...and then told me to do better research. geezus man. what an idiot.

    REGARDLESS of the date, it's concerning houston has more homicides by count than 3 other major and bigger cities.
     
  19. kubli9

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  20. Roscoe Arbuckle

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    All I can do is look up stats via google. And your comment shows my point. Chicago has had 26.5% more deaths than Houston, which is significant when the kid above posted a 3 week sample size with an article about Houston being the homicide capital this year.

    Talk about a dumbass...
     

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