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Dude beats women in swimming update: dude beats girl in Olympics boxing in 46 seconds

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Dec 31, 2021.

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Who won

  1. She

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  2. He

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  3. He-hee

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  4. Michelle Phelps

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  1. ROXRAN

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    If lebron James decided to become lebrenda James and identified as a woman and played in the WNBA in “her” prime, she would average 122 points per game, ,men being men from a science point of view simply have physical genetic advantages over females in a very broad quantitative numerical matter of fact.

    either keep men from competing against women or open everyone up for non segmented sex based competitions and let the chips fall where they may. Dissolve women’s soccer and see how they compete against the men.

    in a day when a Supreme Court justice can’t answer what a woman is…nature knows exactly what it is.
     
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  2. tinman

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    there's an easy way to solve this problem

    have 3 categories

    mens
    womens
    other

    the other section could be people who identify as another sex or race or both
    so that Rachel dozel fake black chick can compete
     
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  3. fchowd0311

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    You bisexual also huh.

    You do know humans who are bisexual won't entirely hault their entire sexual desires to win some sports. If you are bi, I guess I can see it.

    You willing to suck some dick and permanently not have woman touch you sexually to win a MVP in the WNBA?
     
  4. tinman

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    Whitney
    knows what a woman is

     
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  5. ROXRAN

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    Biden and the wokes prefer “truth” over facts
     
  6. jiggyfly

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    So how do you feel about the biological women who she is beating, should they just suck it up and not care?

    And she won the NCAA swimming title, so that's a bit different than just winning on race.
     
  7. tinman

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    This hit song by Whitney Houston
    About women would be canceled today by the woke culture
     
  8. jiggyfly

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    Terrible take, what does sex have to do with any of this do you think any of those things you asked have to do with the actual topic?
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    The poster said that men will change genders so they can win sports competitions. I'm asking that poster to try to step in the shoes of someone making that type of decision and whether they would forgo their entire sex life and interaction with the opposite sex they are sexually attracted to...

    Just to win some sports league titles.

    The women in these leagues have legitimate complaints but all transgender female to male athletes are in their position not because they want to cheat the system and do sex changes to do said cheating of the system. They are transgender because that's what they truly are.
     
  10. jiggyfly

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    Do you know what this swimmer is doing sexually?

    Does not matter if what they are doing is trying to cheat the system they are affecting peoples real lives so again should women have less urgency that trangendered?

    How does what they want outweigh what women want?

    We are not talking about civil rights here it's a swimming competition.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    I just don't understand your premise. Are you implying the swimmer is faking being transgender?

    How do you think that effects his personal life? That means that if he's lying, he still has to abstain from having sexual relations with the opposite sex because women aren't going to be attracted to a dude who tries his damnest to look transgender.


    Why can't you just fall into a position that the individual is sincerely transgender and wants to play in the same league as the gender she believes she is while also understanding that the women also have legitimate complaints?
     
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    It doesn't matter, what matters is whether it is fair to the women wanting to have a fair competition.
     
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    She did win one race out of 18 at that meet. That meant that several other
    Other women beat her shows that whatever advantages she might have aren’t as nearly pronounced as people claim they are. I’m a competitor and I don’t like to lose but the evidence that Lia Thomas essentially was cheating because of natural advantages just isn’t there. In other words those women who lost to her in that race just lost. Just like the races that Lia Thomas lost she just lost.

    What Lia Thomas shows is that trans women aren’t really that much of a threat. If the advantages were as pronounced as being claimed then Lia Thomas should be winning all her races at world record pace.

    the idea that womens sports are doomed the facts don’t support it. For one trans people are a very very small portion of the population and as Lia Thomas and the example of my own competitor shows being trans doesn’t come
    Close to dominating over non trans women.
     
  14. Roc Paint

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    Just waiting for Trump to beat Harris in 2024
     
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    This is why I made a thread asking how many would change their gender if it guaranteed them a championship. It’s a small sample size but to my recollection there was only one vote for it.

    Lebron James isn’t going to change his gender to win in the WNBA, I find it highly doubtful that many mediocre athletes will and as we see with Lia Thomas just doing so doesn’t even guaranteeing a win.
     
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    I absolutely agree with that. When this thread first came out I was not as certain in my opinion and did believe that there was a likelihood that trans women would have an unfair advantage over non trans women. As I’ve seen the other evidence of how Lia Thomas actually did shows me that such concern isn’t as likely.

    Also as I said coming into this thread that my own experience coaching a trans competitor wasn’t that she automatically dominated women in her weight class. She still got beat by more skilled competitors.

    What I’ve seen so far shows that competition between trans and not trans women is for the most part even.

    Given that these are small sample sizes as there are very few trans women and even fewer actually competing in sports I am open to if we see a sudden surge of trans women dominating womens sports. I don’t think we will actually see that and for now I’m
    Fine with just leaving it up to the various sports federations and leagues to decide how they want to handle it.
     
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    You are the one that brought sex into the conversation not me and what this person is doing sexually has no bearing, you don't even know if this person is having sex, with men or women because some trans have relations with both sexes.

    I am not doubting if the individual is sincerely transgender, it really has no bearing on the topic, but you are the guy who brought actual sexual activity into the conversation when it has zero to do with it.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    I replied to someone who stated that people will change genders to win sports competitions.

    Can you understand why I brought up"sex"?

    Were you reading what I originally replied to?
     
  19. jiggyfly

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    She won the NCAA championship that's a bit more than one race.

    "Lia Thomas, 22, who sparked a nationwide conversation about fairness in women's sports after she repeatedly dominated meets, is now an Ivy League Champion in women's swimming after winning the 500-yard freestyle event"

    As for you saying trans women are not much of a threat, these rankings say differently.

    "In the 2018–2019 season she was, when competing on the men's team, ranked 554 in the 200 freestyle, 65 in the 500 freestyle, and 32 in the 1650 freestyle. In the 2021–2022 season, those ranks are now, when competing on the women's team, 5 in the 200 freestyle, first in the 500 freestyle, and eight in the 1650 freestyle"

    "According to Swimming World, by the conclusion of Thomas's swimming career at UPenn in 2022, her rank had moved from 65th on the men's team to 1st on the women's team in the 500-yard freestyle, and 554th on the men's team to 5th on the women's team in the 200-yard freestyle."

    Nobody is saying women sports are doomed, that's a strawman, you are really coming off as saying women sports don't really matter so this means nothing.

    This is not about dominating a sport its about how unfair it is to women who have been training their entire lives, it's amazing you don't see this.
     
  20. jiggyfly

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    So you dodged the pertinent question and now want to drill down on something that is not relevant.

    Why did you ask if I thought she was faking anything, I never implied I just pushed back on you bringing sex into the conversation as if that had any bearing on it whatsoever and like I sai you don't know what her sexual proclivities were but for some reason you brought up oral sex.
     

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