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Psaki Says "Gender Affirming Care" for Kids Is 'Best Practice'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Apr 8, 2022.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Seriously... you don't know the difference between "different" and "abnormal"?
     
  2. Xopher

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    Or that damn teacher I had with her tight sweaters and low cut blouses. I was groomed damnit!
     
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    At an age (4 -8) when a person could not think critically, when a person is highly impressionable and susceptible to peer pressure, yes, that would be grooming. Especially since that's not all they are teaching and not all they could teach.

    If we are teaching students that some people are born into different cultures than they actually are and that you might be a Honduran born into the body of a American, then, yes. In that case, you would expect some highly impressionable, non critical thinking kids to believe they are Honduran born in American bodies.
     
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    My lord
     
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  5. Agent94

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    I've seen this claimed several times in this thread. Sexuality is not largely genetic. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02585-6

    "Ganna and his colleagues also used the analysis to estimate that up to 25% of sexual behaviour can be explained by genetics, with the rest influenced by environmental and cultural factors — a figure similar to the findings of smaller studies."
     
  6. apollo33

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    I find your points extremely confusing. Kids 4-8 already know the existence of straight people, and heterosexual relationships. Educating them about the existence of gay people and relationships is not grooming.

    Also what is this peer pressure thing. Who is peer pressuring anyone to become LGBTQ, it doesn't make sense.

    Whether you like it or not, LGBTQ is still a minority at schools, although tolerance has gone up since my days, kids of the group are still the most susceptible to bullying and being marginalized.

    What is being taught is about existence and tolerance, and about treating those who are different with respect. I don't know how you can possibly spin this into something so sinister like grooming.
     
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    1. The study when it refers to "sexual behavior", they aren't only referring to sexual preference but things like libido abd frequency of desiring and having sex.

    2. The study is making more of claim that there is no single "gay gene" and is a very complex polygenic trait that incorporates many different genetic expressions just like with the vast majority of phenotype expressions.
     
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  8. JumpMan

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    If the law has been applied in that way, let me know.


    Teaching K-3 about sexual orientations, gender identities, and pronouns is not necessary to teach tolerance and acceptance.

    You yourself brought up the 10% number, explain the increase.

    If that's what you believe, then say that instead of saying something isn't abnormal since that implies that abnormal exists.

    Norms exist for a reason.

    Would pedophilia be considered normal or abnormal? I guess, neither?

    Don't be so dramatic. This isn't the prosecution those people escaped.
     
  9. JumpMan

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    No. The process of me finding the book went like this... I shared that I think empathy is overrated, fchowd said that empathy was important to evolution, I looked that up and it was a thing, so I looked up case against empathy, and it turned out that was also a thing from finding that book, smaller thing, but still.

    I ordered it, though.
     
  10. JumpMan

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    No. I also kiss and hug their mother, my wife in front of them. I don't typically do those things in front of strangers kids.
     
  11. JumpMan

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    I'm not sure what you're talking about. Do you think abnormal exists?
     
  12. SamFisher

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    Not a very impressive study.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    That isn't the question. Is a teacher or parent having a kid watch a children's movie that has a young girl and boy holding hands sexual grooming? There are thousands of child appropriate movies and books that have romantic relationships that obviously don't depict sexual activity but show hugging and hand holding.

    Is that sexual grooming?
     
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    That's a lot of ifs for you to be comfortable about a title so inflammatory.

    And even then it does not make sense because you are so focused on one part of what you titled it.
     
  15. NewRoxFan

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    You just said different and abnormal are two words for the same thing. So obviously you don't know the difference between the two words. I am different from you. You are different from atw. That doesn't make anyone of us abnormal.

    A gay teacher is different from a straight teacher. Neither are abnormal. The fact that I have to explain that to you is amazing but does help explain why you think the way you do.
     
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    Where does it say that. "The researchers split their study participants into two groups — those who reported having had sex with someone of the same sex, and those who didn’t."

    Yes. And they pretty clearly state that genetics can only explain up to 25% of sexual behavior.
     
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    Different is a rockets fan wearing Calvin Murphy jersey instead of a Hakeem or harden one

    abnormal is when you are wearing a Karl Malone jersey and say you are a Rockets fan

    @Os Trigonum
    @Jontro
     
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  18. JumpMan

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    Now that I look back, I misunderstood what I responded to. He said it's not abnormal, it's different. I understood it as abnormal and different.

    I look at abnormal in an absolute sense, not normal, not regular; I don't necessarily believe everything abnormal is wrong.
     
  19. Agent94

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    Ignoring science that doesn't fit your world view. You must be a conservative :)
     
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  20. JumpMan

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    Ahh, not my actual kids, my students. No it isn't.
     

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