Psaki Says "Gender Affirming Care" for Kids Is 'Best Practice'

When you empathize with a person missing a limb or something, you imagine how it would feel to be in the same situation, no? You pretend you are missing a limb.

If you also told the kid that we can go beyond pretending because there are people who are actual witches, monsters, and princesses, that they might be one, and that it is perfectly normal to believe you are one, then you might succeed in grooming a kid into believing they are a witch, monster, or princess. In other words, it's not just the empathy lesson, it's everything together.

 

Dude, no costume or empathy is going to turn a heterosexual's hormones into a gay. You just can't change that, and if you really believe that then you arent alone, but that doesn't make you right.

It's parents who believe stuff like that who force their poor teenagers into a closet. Their wacko conversion therapies or praying won't change them into a heterosexual. It's no wonder so many of those poor kids put through that rejection and nonsense commit suicide

 

As usual, you find it necessary to lie to defend your own prejudices. Much like the screaming lies in your thread titles. When have I called you or anyone else in this thread a "Nazi"? Unless you somehow believe that right wingnuts are Nazis? So this is just a defense mechanism you hope to use to shout down anyone that accurately points out your prejudices for your positions.

Again, the people arguing for these hateful laws are right wings ("conservatives","trumpsters", "republicans", use whatever label you prefer). Thought if you look at history, Nazis and extremist Islamic groups both executed on the most oppressive laws against gays in the past.

But just as racists laws that oppressed Blacks for being black in the past are now considered wrong (at least by the vast majority), laws that oppress gays for being gay and trans people for being trans are also prejudicial and wrong. Built on the same lack of understanding, fears and unacceptance. And it stops being a simple disagreement on positions when it oppresses the rights of others.

 

Again I don't think what we are seeing is LGBT grooming. I don't think any of these actions are going to make children more likely to be gay or trans.

 

Empathy by definition is the ability to understand the feelings of others. To do that you do actually need to at least get some approximation of what it's like to be that person. As stated again children generally aren't good at abstract thinking. For that matter many adults aren't either which is why role playing is a big part of training for many things.

 

Does that mean that if you pretend you're missing a limb you're going to want to actually lose a limb?

And yes there are actual witches yet I don't think we are seeing a lot of people become Wiccans because they dressed up as a witch during Halloween when they were a kid.

 

Correct... amazing that he even tries to demonize the concept of empathy.

 

No, it's not half the population who believes in this bill. 62% of Americans oppose such legislation, while 37% support it.

More than 6 in 10 Americans oppose legislation that would prohibit classroom lessons about sexual orientation or gender identity in elementary school, a new ABC News/Ipsos poll finds.

61% of GOP identifiers supporting it compared to only 20% of Democrats and 35% of independents.

Results were not significantly different by education level. Sixty-five percent of respondents with a college degree oppose such legislation, while 60% of those with a high school education or less also oppose it.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/10-...ng-lgbtq-lessons-elementary/story?id=83393478

It's a minority, which is mainly GOP who want to force this stuff into law.

 

I think the point about the problems with conversion therapy show that sexuality or gender identity isn't quite as fluid as people think. While there are certainly cases of people who have changed their sexual preferences because of things like that but in general it's shown that the evidence for conversion therapy working is spotty at best.

From what I've seen of these exercises that teachers are doing is that they are about acceptance of LGBT. So whatever grooming is taking place it is grooming them to be more empathetic of LGBT so that they don't discriminate against them. To that there might be more children who later come out as gay or trans that has more to do with that such things are accepted and people are more comfortable with that in the culture. Gay and trans people have always existed and in every culture. The difference is whether they are acknowledged. For example Iran and Russia might claim there are no gay and trans people. That is just denial and that such people are discriminated so heavily that they won't be open about it.

That we live in a diverse society that values personal freedom it is more important that we get people to be more tolerant and from a younger age the better. If that is about trying to get more empathy towards people different I don't see that as a bad thing nor do I see that as actually making them become that.

And yes parents do have a say and certainly as they are raising their children they can shape a lot of the values of what the children think. For that matter people can send their children to private schools or homeschool them. What laws like these do though are a blunt instrument of using government.

 

Am I supposed to feel sorry for you? Your rhetoric speaks for itself. You guys are like the host humans to the chest bursters where the chest bursters are the Nazis. Yes people like you are the precursors to fascism. Fascists have always justified violence and totalitarianism as a lash back towards the degradation of society due to progressive activism which today is coined as "woke" by the right.

I use the Alien chestburster analogy because like in Alien lore, the human host is a victim and the chestburster is the malicious entity. People like you are the victims to right wing propaganda and eventually the collective brainwashing eventually can coalesce using some sort of cult of personality who fights for these causes rhetorically into fascism.

 

You know who else hates radical leftists with a passion to the point they think a narcissist egomaniac who explicitly degraded the sanctity of our democracy by convincing millions its fake news as the safer alternative?

Ya, you think that teachers teaching to empathize with lgbtq people is more dangerous than a egomaniac who wants to discredit our entire Republic system by stating that any result that isn't him winning is fake news. That is where you are now. And that is why I'm comfortable calling you fascist. You justify the fascist reactions from actual fascists because why? Teachers are teaching the concept of empathy towards children? Ya, it takes VERY little for you to see justification in fascism. Hence fascist.

 

If being against discrimination is leftist I'd prefer that over the propaganda, lies, and hate stirring of Trump. Love vs hate wins my vote every time.

In choosing voting for a leader of a coup to overturn the people's vote, and inciting a riot on the Capitol vs someone who believes in Democracy, I choose the latter every time.

The military deserves a Commander in Chief who puts country over self and not vice versa. They also need a Commander in Chief who is not a narcissistic compulsive liar. They also need a Commander in Chief who doesn't take money designated to their well being to use on a border wall.

There isn't a single characteristic about Trump making him worthy of President. Just because he likes lowering taxes for the richest of the rich, to benefit himself doesn't make him a leader.

He doesn't give a damn about the healthcare crisis and all the uninsured Americans who can't afford to get medical care for themselves and their kids. Most of the world understands and does more to address that, but Trump never will. It's all campaign lies and fake promises. Nothing ever changes with him.

As for regulating what families can and can't do, you do understand that it's the GOP trying to restrict and regulate how people choose to live their life and raise their kids don't you?

Give me a break with trying to justify such a horrible person as Trump to be President again. He's a bully, a con, a crook, a traitor, and a lying pig, who has an ugly past with women and teen girls from adultery to sexual accusations.

Make no mistake, Trump always has and always will be out for Numero uno. He lives bragging about himself and acting like he knows everything. He's is the classic sociopath/paychopath. He wants to richen himself and his company businesses by wining and dining the rich and powerful at his country clubs while charging the government millions to house secret service and staff on his weekend golf and grifting rituals.

 

Why aren’t you worried about the elections in Germany?

You were posting misinformation from a website that promotes white nationalism aka modern neo Nazi ideology. I’m sorry that you can’t handle the criticism of merely explaining that truth to you.

The actions of the far left motivate the far right far less than the Antichrist villain portrait that FoxNews, daily caller, etc. create out of lies about everyone from George Soros to myself. The MAGA right has proven it’ll believe whatever they want. They’ll even believe we are all pedophiles trafficking little babies for their blood.

So spare me your threats intended to get posters here to ease down on your criticism. We aren’t going to be intimidated in order to say “you know what… I respect your opinion, and I do want to be more careful of what I say etc etc”. Fck that. That’s actually the attitude that leads Dems to lose elections.

Sorry but your GDamn wrong here. And since you aren’t living in Texas where these new hateful laws are actually impacting our lives I personally think your input should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

Is this coming from a guy who thinks teaching kids to empathize with lgtbq people is "grooming" kids to be gay or transgender?

Come in with an absurd premise that turns something that is supposed to show empathy and kindness into some sick pedophilic agenda to turn kids gay, expect visceral reactions to such absurd premises.

And if all it takes for conservatives to elect a wannabe fascist president in Trump is people online calling them fascist, then they were fascist from the beginning. Someone calling me communist isn't going to magically make me communist. It's such an absurd premise.

Liberals, left of center, moderates etc in this country for disagreeing with right wing framing have been called "Islamic terror apologists", "Unpatriotic", "unAmerican", "soy boys", "pedophile protectors" so on and so forth and do you see them as a reaction chose a candidate out of spite? Do they like Bernie Sanders because he "owns the right" or because of his polices regardless of how naïve they are? If it takes so little for someone to accept Trump, a fascist, then they had fascist tendencies to begin with.

I guess this is a bigotry of low expectations situation huh? We have to make sure not to hurt their feelings to not elect Trump. Do you see how childish that sounds and you place the onus on the left for conservatives and right wingers choosing Trump? Are you afraid liberals are going to vote in Jim Carey if we get insulted too much? Do you go tell righties "Hey guys, tone down the 'woke this' and 'woke that' or else they going to make Jim Carey president". No? You don't feel a need to? Oh is it because the right is so cordial to where you don't worry or is it because you don't have to treat liberals like babies because no amount of the right calling the left "pedophiles" or "Muslim terror sympathizers" is going to make them chose a candidate out of spite?