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Texas woman arrested for having an abortion

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Apr 9, 2022.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    And I didn't even have to lie in the headline to get people to click! Imagine that.





    So Roe v Wade doesn't apply in Texas anymore I guess.
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    Only a matter of time before women deal with the consequences of electing far right Christian nationalists into power since abortion is as ancient as civilization itself so she won't be the last woman charged with murder.

    I do wonder how far along she was though as I think most people are against late-term abortions but no doubt in my mind we'll be hearing many stories like this across the country.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Would also be interesting to know what law she broke.
     
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    I am guessing we will soon find out and hopefully this will challenge the Texas law...

     
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    I don't get it....her body, her choice.

    It is no one else's business.

    DD
     
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  6. rocketsjudoka

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    Would definitely want to know more about this situation. My guess is that because she isn't a doctor the argument is that she committed murder and not an abortion in the medical sense.

    It's long been a situation in the law that in the case of an attack on a pregnant woman if the fetus is also killed that many states will consider that a murder even in states that have few restrictions on abortions.
     
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    Usually with those laws the mother is exempt (in fact I think it's always)
     
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    Yes that is the situation but that is why I would like to know more about the case.

    For example I think her background will matter a lot.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Maybe she was assisting someone else. It's not really clear at all.
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Yeah...an article I read yesterday speculated it was due to her helping someone, but there was nothing definitive.
     
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  11. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Murder. It says so right in the tweet, "A Texas woman has been charged with murder..."
     
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    Abortion isn't murder.
     
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    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    It would appear the Sheriff and prosecutor in Starr county do not agree with you.
     
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    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    Doesn't matter if they agree with me or not, this is the law of the land and has nothing to do with me.
     
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    unless you consider it to be murder
     
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    Which law justify the murder charge for "self-induced abortion"?
     
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    That's a federal law. It's very specific and "self-induced abortion" is not part of (b). There is no law that I know of where "self-induced abortion" is murder.
     
  18. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    None of them, probably. I imagine, being in Texas, she is being charged under 19.02(b). I think 19.06(1) is going to be the issue, unless she was not the mother. If she is not the mother and instead performed the abortion on someone else (and is not a medical professional that falls under 19.06(2-4)), then she would be subject to the general 19.02(b) murder statute. Whether or not you can kill a baby in utero apparently depends on either being the mother or being a "physician or other licensed health care provider" under specific circumstances.
     
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    I wonder if desperate woman will resort to coat hanger and other dangerous forms of self-induced abortions.
     

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