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Psaki Says "Gender Affirming Care" for Kids Is 'Best Practice'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Apr 8, 2022.

  1. JumpMan

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    I asked first what grooming would be and you answered with pedophile grooming which is not the same thing.

    Again, what would LGBT grooming look like? If what is going on ain't it, what would it look like?

    That they exist is fine. Problem is, I didn't need my kindergarten teacher to teach me that. And neither did you. Nor did any of us need to know that in kindergarten. That it is okay is something we have to wait on until they could think critically and won't be influenced by it. Playing pretend with kindergarters' sexual attraction and their gender identity is what grooming would look like. If you disagree, let me know what you think LGBT grooming would actually look like.
     
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    As if Biden has anything to do with kids being anything but heterosexual. You calling Biden the Creator of mankind? God, or whoever you believe creates life on earth?
     
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    imagine letting this masked freak near your kids

     
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    are you bisexual by chance?

    The only people I would assume who think one can be groomed into being gay are people who were born bisexual. It's okay also. You don't have to live in fear over a birth trait dude. Those teachers are trying to teach those kids to be empathetic towards people like you. Can you explain what is wrong with that?
     
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    Ah yes, a random tweet to avoid the subject. Sounds about right.

    You lied in your title. You're ignorant about the subject. You're wish to deny trans people healthcare relevant to their needs and approved by doctors. You support policies promoted by Islamist extremists. Which of this is wrong? Perhaps "the left" wouldn't call out your hatefulness if you weren't hateful.
     
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    When I was hoping you would be more accepting of moderate Muslims, I wasn't expecting you to go full jihadist and be in lock step with Islamic extremists.

    I think your personality type is to just swing for the extremes. Probably should do some deep dive introspection on why that is.
     
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    Yesterday on my Facebook news feed there was a post that shared a video of a teacher waiving a rainbow flag while parading with kids to show support and teaching kids empathy for LGBTQ folks.

    The top most upvoted comment "America needs Nazis". All upvoted by people I served with.

    I'm literally seeing the Nazification of my peers in real time.

    Ad yes this was exactly the playbook of the German right during the Weimar Republic. They detested the progressive movement in Berlin and other urban areas of Germany especially in regards to things like LGBTQ activism which was way ahead of it's time in Berlin. Nazis used that activism as a hate crutch to instil fear in the @AroundTheWorld types.
     
  8. JumpMan

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    Not bisexual. What a weird assumption to make.

    If there's a possibility anyone could be groomed into being gay or trans it would be children or an adult stuck in childhood trauma.

    Empathy is unnecessary if you are compassionate and have love for all people. We don't have to feel the pain of another person to recognize that they are in pain or in a painful situation. In this case, we don't have to pretend to be attracted to our own sex or pretend we feel like the opposite gender to recognize that that is a tough situation to be in. The problem is getting highly impressionable young children to do that would be part of grooming and could fool them into believing something that ain't true about themselves could be or is true.

    But I ask you now, if that ain't grooming, what would be grooming?
     
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    well there isn't a possibility unless you are bisexual and a bisexual person who since birth has been brainwashed to believe that being gay is socially unacceptable and a sin hated by God will project their internal strife on to said gay community. There is a reason that it's often the case that the most vocal anti-gay activists find themselves caught in homosexual acts. Maybe it's some deep conspiracy that frames these people or maybe it just seems that many bisexual and gay individuals who are raised in far right households often have the most damaged mental health and project their internal strife.


    So no, one can't groom children into being gay. The only people who would assume that are either deeply religiously brainwashed or bisexual or both.

    And obviously your platitudes about being kind to everyone and understanding everyone's feelings don't work out in practice because since the beginning of civilization, homosexual people more times than not had to live lives of secrecy for fear of being persecuted.


    So just like schools teach children to share, school should teach children how to be empathetic towards people who don't look like them or are part of their "tribe'.
     
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    This is basically it. It's amusing that ATW pretended to care about childrens' mental health in his anti-mask thread arguing for parental freedom and then now wants to deny kids' basic mental health needs here, even if their parents support it. The only consistency is that both are right wing culture wars designed to stoke fear and hatred despite no logical premise. He's always been a guy who projects his own hate and insecurities on others, but you can see the radicalization as he just follows whatever topic the extreme right promotes at the time - until they made trans health care an issue, notice ATW had never mentioned it. It's just a matter of time before he's a straight up militant extremist.
     
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    Churches often try to convince gay kids (or adults who are dealing with their gender identity trauma) they are straight. Is that grooming and should discussing straightness be banned?

    I find it fascinating that, like CRT last year, no one used this term a month ago in talking about trans issues and now it's all the rage despite all the people complaining really unable to go any more in depth about it beyond using the term. It's like they heard it on the news or something and now just regurgitate it.
     
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    Scaring people about grooming so let's ban what services doctors can offer. Hmm..

     
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    I think there is a possibility. A possibility that increases with kids. If there wasn't, this whole thing wouldn't be important.

    The people you described hate gay people/themselves. Often people are attracted to or become who they hate. Like when a woman or man who witnessed domestic abuse at home ends up with someone who is abusive or ends up being abusive. All because they hated the abuser and identified with the abused.


    So you could brainwash someone with religion and many other things, but not anything sexual? Hmm. I disagree.

    That is the only logical answer to my question for anyone who doesn't mind what's happening and would like to see more of it. That you can't groom children in this way, I mean. If you actually think it's possible, what's happening is exactly what it would look like and there would be a fight to push this on young children.

    And making young children pretend to be gay or trans will solve that?


    How about empathetic to people who disagree with them?
     
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    That's very sick and disturbing.
     
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    Who in the hell do you think is making kids pretend to be gay or trans? Come on now. you really are exaggerating this to an extreme. Do you believe if kids at Halloween put on different costumes like a fireman, witch, monster, princess, policeman, etc....they will be groomed into being one?
     
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    Well, churches are different than schools. They have different standards and expectations. We can start by no law forces kids to go to church.

    Do you also find it fascinating that there was an equal amount of surface level discussion and regurgitation on the other side of the issue?
     
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    So summing up a long and spite-filled thread...

    Some right wing nuts believe gay and trans people want to convert children and as a result want to push for laws that discriminate against gays and trans people. A silly and sick belief with no actual basis of facts. But much like the "bathroom" debate of the past and the current "Don't Say Gay" debate going on right now, built on false suppositions, expressed with false screaming headlines, aimed at fear, and exploiting people's children to push their prejudices to create unnecessary and corrupt laws.

    And usually, the right wingnut pushing for these adds a "my friend is gay and...", much like racists in the past would add a "I have black friends and..."
     
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    This whole thing *isn't* important. It's like CRT. Or bathroom bills. It's people trying to make you angry about something that is a non-issue.

    North Carolina was the first to pass the bathroom bill. People were suddenly in uproar about who could use what restroom. But what they were suddenly so angry about had actually been the status-quo of how it had been forever - they just were never angry about it before because it wasn't actually a problem until someone told you it was to stir up anger and fear.

    This is simply the new version of that.
     
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    Lot of truth in that part.
     
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    I think the "CRT" issue, much like "bathroom" issue, and now the "Don't Say Gay" issue are all build off people's lack of understanding and acceptance that leads to fears and hatred of people that are different. So those in political power will use the laws to execute on these fears and hatred. While those arguing against these laws argue for more understanding and acceptance.
     

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