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Psaki Says "Gender Affirming Care" for Kids Is 'Best Practice'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Apr 8, 2022.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    I don't think anyone claims they don't exist or that they are not human beings. Stop building strawmen.
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    Dude, you said in another thread you would refuse to even call a transwoman a 'she', even if she told you to use those pronouns. That's basic respect you give a person.

    The bill you support doesn't want them to exist, that's the bill you're backing. You can ignore the rest of my post too, the claims you make about people encouraging others to be trans IS a strawman. You even linked to doctors that said anything but, that said their goal is to make kids jump through as many hurdles as possible before they make that decision.

    The biggest strawman here is you think there are people encouraging others to be trans when really all that's happened is there is more support for those who have come out as trans. That's all that's happened. There is no wild conspiracy going on to make kids gay and trans, the support for gay and trans children is being confused that way because the people confused by it are used to discouraging these people in the first place and think that discouragement 'fixes' them.
     
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    Not sure which post you are referring to. But that swimmer is a dude.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    What amazes me from some is that you guys @AroundTheWorld and @LosPollosHermanos who are, in my opinion, respectable posters, I don't think you wake up and hate people...but what amazes me is the trust you have from people that have been anti-LGBTQ their entire lives.

    For the past twenty years or so there is one side that has been a roadblock for LGBTQ+ rights and now this same side is peddling new lies and fear and you just inexplicably trust them. Some of these SAME politicians were and still are (based on the KBJ hearings) against gay marriage and this is the same side you're trusting with the rights of LGBTQ+ people?

    A lot of these same people aren't for gay rights, look at the history of the people you're quoting and the journalists you're reading and the politicians you're supporting...why trust any of these people on this issue or why not at least understand their bias as everyone has one, including me, but their bias is against that community, they are not wishing the best for that community, they are constantly trying to undermine it.

    I honestly don't understand. You wouldn't trust David Duke (maybe if its the guy on the nets...) on talking about black issues, why are you trusting sometimes very openly Anti-LGBTQ+ people on LGBTQ+ issues?
     
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    Yet the republicans are the party that had nominated multiple pedophiles….
     
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  8. JayGoogle

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    Richard Grenell, the same guy against the Equality act yes? The same equality act that is an amendment of the 1964 Civil Rights act? This is the guy you're trusting on these issues?

    I'll ask you and @LosPollosHermanos again since you both want to dodge the question. Why are you trusting people on the side that is been against LGBTQ+ rights for the past 30 years? Why do you think these people have that community's best interest in mind?
     
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    https://www.allsides.com/news-source/federalist
     
  10. DaDakota

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    I wonder if it is cultural?

    Like does growing up in a certain culture or country make you more prone to judging others for their choices?

    Or do certain cultures and environments make it less acceptable? Hispanic, Chinese, etc?

    DD
     
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    Why are you putting words in my mouth regarding wh I support and don’t support . I stated my position pretty clearly it has nothing to do with who supports it and who doesn’t. There are countless other groups facing consistent systematic discrimination but aren’t privy to these same advantages (probably because this new minority group has a individuals who priory identified as “white males”). You can champion this as long as you want and create special circumstances like the being trans stipends that California city has while the people actually being oppressed are struggling day in and out
     
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    This thing here is a prime example. He didn’t care as afghan, Syrian, and iraqi innocents were killed year after year (just look at his posts regarding the withdrawal and blaming the brutalized afghans

    He identifies as one of these “woke” liberals but is probably the most out of touch , racist poster on this board. Even in this post, he tries to attack other cultures and backgrounds in a not so subtle way as an excuse for the ignorance he has been raised with. At the end of the day he’ll go back to playing video games on his hott cheetoh fingers and make generalizations about the world outside of his Alienware gaming monitor he rarely steps outside of.

    to compensate he’ll pick from the virtue signaling menu and champion this cause fully vindicating him from his appalling standings. That’s been the formula for a lot of these self serving libs. It’s extremely sad
     
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    Lol snowflakes.
     
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    Not really, no. You keep dancing around the issue saying things like...

    And

    The only thing you've been clear about is that you think Trans people should live their lives and you have no issue with them, that's fine, that's cool, but quite frankly that's lip service if you're not against the growing number of bills that's targeting the LGBTQ+ community around the country. Your only comment in these threads is about how liberals are gone too far left, what am I supposed to assume? So you can clarify your stance on Desantis' bill and those like it if you want to, but if your comment on these topics is groaning about the left going too far then you can't blame someone for assuming you're opposing the stance of those left of you.

    As for this other point you might think you have about other groups facing discrimination, it's not a pick and choose thing...consistently there's been one party for helping minority groups and one party that isn't. At least in the past 50 years or so. You can argue the economics of those ideals all you want and fair enough but you can't sit there and pretend that the same people giving trans people stipends wouldn't be giving them to black people or other POC if they could.
     
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    Ric Grenell is "LGBTQ+".
     
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    One thing I find interesting, a lot of the cowards that won’t admit they voted for trump claim to be “libertarians”… a libertarian wouldn’t give 2 ***** a person wanted to claim they were a different gender or species for what that matters. As long as it doesn’t harm others, they should have no issues.
     
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  17. JayGoogle

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    So? There's a guy named Jesse Lee Peterson that says things that even a KKK member wouldn't say in public. I wouldn't trust that guy on black issues despite him being black.

    Grenell being gay doesn't change the fact that he's against a bill that amends their rights and works for a party that is now openly trying to scale back their rights.
     
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    You literally accused another poster of denying LGBTQ people healthcare, it’s safe to say that the majority of the assertions you make are in hyperbole. I knew I would be painted as such coming in
     
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  19. JayGoogle

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    Dude, there are literally bills doing EXACTLY that making their way through states...in fact, Psaki's quote is countering such a bill, it didn't come out of nowhere, it was about the alabama bill that does EXACTLY that.

    The Governor's stance on it by the way...
    This thread is about THAT bill.
     
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    Unless you consider it to be child abuse
     

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