Psaki Says "Gender Affirming Care" for Kids Is 'Best Practice'

Jazz, one of the FEW to ever have it done pre-18 and still had issues finding a doctor to do it and to this day says she doesn't regret a thing might not be the best example for opposing SRS for pre-18 kids.

Bowers is one of its leading advocates for this stuff, that I know... Anderson at a glance is against this very bill you're supporting lol, I doubt she's opposed to Gender Affirming Care but an article took a quote of something she's said and extrapolated it into some kind of hardline stance that a conservative would be proud of.

Looking into it Anderson's main concern is with detrans people, detransitioners, who are even rarer than trans people. This is, people that transition and regret it. Reading one interview with Anderson it is clear she's not against Gender Affirming Care for pre-18 and her stance is far more complicated than that and wants more hoops for kids to go through before they do anything outside of socially transitioning. These are actual discussions we can have.

Discussions that are hard to have though are those based on lies and framing it as SRS being done on 8 year olds or 8 year olds getting puberty blockers. These things don't happen and if they do they are isolated cases and are dealt with as isolated cases...not used to further discriminate and deny other trans people care.

 

And this is how it's always been until conservatives started their warpath and try to take away even this from trans kids and their families. It's the GOP that is trying to federally take away medical options, not the DNC.

 

It’s impossible to have a conversation about this topic, from what initially was universal acceptance any opposition to your and your childrens personal views/rights becomes “denying people healthcare”


This is how the trumps of the world are elected. Enough people get sick of far left groups militant approach to this **** to where a crazy running is seen as favorable.

Off topic, but Supplemental hormones, particularly tesosterone are bad for health. It’s a well known fact in the medical world, physicians counseling their patients face similar barriers about “you’re denying us access to healthcare!!” Amazing how one group of people and their virtue signalers have hijacked political discourse

 

It's citing Jazz getting puberty blockers, yes, a decision that was between her and her family and her doctors, which you just said you were for. A decision that the person in question didn't regret and a decision that both of the doctors in your article aren't actually arguing against.

This said, I didn't said this NEVER happens just that these are extremely rare cases that can be dealt with in isolation, it's not a pandemic of cases...hell, the % of trans people is less than 1%.

 

What was once universal acceptance is a TERRIBLE standard for any moral stance lol.

 

You gave me one case. Do you regularly support legislation based on something happening to one person?

 

I’m perfectly ok with someone identifying with what they want and living the way they want. The same way as Ramadan etc not being parroted down everybody’s throat this doesn’t have to be either. This is just given a special circumstance and a tool for the virtue signalers.

 

So...based on that 60-90 second video, you are saying she supports gender reassignment surgery for 8 year olds?

 

Who is shoving anything down your throat? Whose actually trying to legislate healthcare away from people again?

 

Did any of those detrans people have SRS as a kid?

Do you know how many people are detrans?

Answer these questions and then ask if we should be denying trans people healthcare because of a small % of them are detrans. This is what you're doing, you can try to disguise it as something else but it is clearly what you're for.

You talk about communism but lets talk about how fascism takes a few rare cases of something happening, makes it up to be this huge scare, then uses it to target vulnerable communities.

All this talk about trans people when they would not be a topic of discussion if not for right wing politicians.

 

You didn’t respond to my analogy, what specific Ramadan, hannakuh etc exemptions / specific courses are provided?

why are these groups of individuals that are left to have their freedom/do what they want so special? Let me put together a certain demographic of height, race, hair length , run some stats on any barriers they face and legislate to have special circumstances in their favor. You guys have deluded yourself past the point of wanting equality which I am and have always been in favor of

 

Also, where is the concern for women and breasts surgery @AroundTheWorld ?

Do you share that concern of young women getting butt implants and breasts surgery? Sometimes they too regret these decisions, sometimes these decisions KILL them.

In fact, this is even a bigger issue affecting WAAAAY more people than the trans thing, especially nowadays with instagram and young women wanting to look just 'right' to be popular on insta or tiktok.

This should get a lot more attention from the conservative right, these are also permanent decisions that young people are making

 

The difference is you'r talking about a religion and we're talking about gender. Religious freedom is a core tenant of this country but you wouldn't have to look far to find Christians trying to force their religion down as many throats as possible, which isn't a knock on Christianity, all religions are the same. I still remember having to say the pledge of allegience every day in k-12 and how some students would have to abstain to that because of the mention of God in it.

No one is going after parents for indoctrinating their kids into religion either, so it's not even an equal comparison.

What we are doing though is telling a group of people that they can't have the healthcare that they find is necessary for them, how is that equal?

How is it equal that a straight teacher can talk about their marriage but a gay teacher can't?

 

Well then stop supporting bills that won't even allow for counseling or support? You can't say you're for it being between a doctor, the family, and the child, then turn around and support bills where the government says no, you can't do that.

There's a whole culture that promotes it though, isn't there? Why aren't you worried about that? It's affecting a lot more people.

And you are assuming that these therapists children see are encouraging people to chop off their genitals or even transitioning...you even linked me to TWO doctors who said it is the last thing they do...so you know of at least two doctors that do not do this very thing. You're also confusing that the simple acknowledgment that trans people exist and giving them respect as another human being is not encouragement.