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Psaki Says "Gender Affirming Care" for Kids Is 'Best Practice'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Apr 8, 2022.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Guilty as charged. I will admit that I copied the thread title without fully having processed the content of the video.

    That said, I don't like Psaki. She comes across as lecturing and arrogant. Surely her predecessory under Trump weren't any better, but...
     
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    @AroundTheWorld why are you posting lies from a white nationalist website? I can now assume you are a follower of white nationalist propaganda correct? Can I ask why?

    Love or hate Jen Psaki, if you actually watched the video it’s not at all what she said. This white nationalist website thinks their consumers are dumb enough to believe a headline without actually watching the video. I guess my question to you is why do you think we are dumb too??

    The point is red states are currently engaged in a campaign to terrorize parents, doctors, teachers, etc. on these non issues as a way of scoring political points with their hate filled hardcore base of voters. It’s a tactic of threat that works even when it’s not truly enforced just by threat alone.

    Just this week a school in DFW my friend teaches history at had a history teacher get fired, but at the same was offered to have the superintendent write a glowing endorsement and help him find another job. Do you know why????… because he had a STATE CURRICULUM lesson on the Nuremberg trials and a kid took a video of the lesson and posted it on telegram and compared Hitler to Trump. So even before a parent went to the school board, the admin made the decision to fire the teacher just to avoid the roadshow circus that would be coming their way. They knew the teacher did nothing wrong, but they fear the right wing hate groups that have infiltrated school boards here in Texas.

    THIS is the intent of such bills but for other areas such as intending to just be a freaking human being to children struggling, and dealing with who they are.

    So it goes without saying @AroundTheWorld , you can do better than this dude. You also don’t live in red state USA right now so slow your role on taking such strong opinions on what we are dealing with right now with these insane right wing laws coming into our lives.
     
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    Ties to White Supremacy
    In May 2017, ProPublica reported that The Daily Caller had "published a news story about recent protests in Charlottesville, Virginia ... The article noted that some 200 people had carried torches in a march to the monument, a procession it called “visually striking.” It also quoted a young black man speaking favorably about one of the protest’s organizers. The story, it turned out, also carried some critical omissions: It didn’t disclose that its author, Jason Kessler, is supportive of white supremacist groups, and on the day of the march had himself made a speech to the protesters in which he praised fascist and racist organizations, thanked a prominent Holocaust denier, and declared the beginnings of a cultural “civil war.” [11]

    A Southern Poverty Law Center report claimed in 2017 that "The Daily Caller Has A White Nationalist Problem." The report says that "the Daily Caller has not only published the work of white nationalists, but some of its writers have routinely whitewashed the Alt-Right, while one editor there is an associate of key Alt-Right figures. Two Daily Caller contributors, including a senior investigative reporter, were recently announced as speakers at the upcoming white nationalist H.L. Mencken Club conference organized by Paul Gottfried, a godfather of the Alt-Right." [12]

    A reporter for The Daily Caller told The Washington Post, "I regret that I put these ill-formed thoughts out into the public domain," about blog posts he had made prior to being hired by The Daily Caller. "It’s part of the oeuvre that preceded the blogger’s hiring at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller, starting in 2014." [13]

    https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/The_Daily_Caller
     
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    Malik is a hedge fund shark. Not what Wikipedia describes as a Democrat. Why would a Democrat support disinformation against the Democratic party??

    White Nationalism in America is big business actually. Just go to DC yourself and see the tent and tents of vendors selling MAGA apparel. Most of those vendors are minorities as well making a buck off of racism and hate.

    So what?? .. the Daily Caller is a white nationalist propaganda outlet. Jason Kessler and Tucker Carlson are the two figureheads for the site and obviously traffic in anti democratic hate speech and disinformation.

    So again I’ll ask, why are you a follower of their white nationalist propaganda? Also why are Germans like yourself drawn to white nationalist propaganda still??
     
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    dobro, you need to check yourself. You sound rather hysterical.
     
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    I again find it disturbing that just acknowledging the existence of homosexual and transgender people including that some people like to be referred to by different pronouns is now considered "indoctrination" and "grooming".
     
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    You can edit the thread title.
     
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    That's a major issue...you went on arguing this topic and making it out like it was happening and being endorsed when the person that was supposedly endorsing this never said she was.

    No one supports SRS for children, you'd be surprised to find that even most trans don't have SRS since its still a terrifying procedure so if it happens or happened you can be sure that the doctor that approved of it is a wacko.

    No one is also teaching sex-ed to kindergarteners. Again, I'm not saying it has NEVER happened but if it has the teacher has likely already been punished for it.

    This whole thing is trying to single out Trans to weaken or take away all LGBTQ+ rights. That's the goal and that's always been the goal.
     
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    You're asking the wrong question. The correct question is "why did you fall for it?"
     
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    From skimming this thread and other stories regarding this issue yes I can see how some overzealous teachers acted ham handed with classroom exercises. What I don't see though is that they were "grooming" children sexually or were trying to convince children to change genders.

    Activities like celebrating a rainbow flag or saying you can use a different pronoun to describe yourself I don't see much different than teaching about rainforest deforestation and asking kids in to pretend to be a rainforest creature to understand what it might be like to live in the rainforest. Since children have a hard time with abstract thinking these are the type of exercises to get them to think more deeper about a topic.

    What I'm seeing isn't telling children they should change their genders but that there are people who consider themselves to have different genders and that is acceptable.
     
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    What would acual. grooming look like? I mean, if what we're seeing ain't it, what would it look like?
     
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    Actual grooming would be like what Catholic priesst were doing. Using their position to encourage vulnerable children to be willing to cross boundaries based on what they see as an authority figure. Usually stuff like this isn't done en masse as part of a teaching but encouraging a child to stay after class and "help" the teacher, priest or some other authority figure with a personal project. Trying to earn the trust of the child by not just playing on their role as an authority figure but also as a confidant. Also one thing that we do warn children about trying to win over children with things like candy or letting them play with a puppy to separate them from others so they can be more easily exploited.
     
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    That's what a pedophile would do, yes, but that wouldn't be the goal in this topic. The goal here is grooming into a LGBT+ type lifestyle or identity. How would grooming in that case look like?
     
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    The term "grooming" is used to describe what pedophiles use to exploit victims, which is frankly why it's being thrown around so much.

    I don't know how just teaching that there are LGBT people and that is OK is grooming them into a lifestyle and from what I've seen I'm not sure how teachers are trying to make kids gay anymore than an classroom exercise like "pretend you're an animal in the rainforest" is trying to make children actually rainforest creatures.
     
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    So, you don't know what it would look like, but you're sure what's happening ain't it? Your rainforest creature example doesn't work because teachers aren't saying that trans-species people exist and that they're normal.
     
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    According to some claims they are as I think some poster posted some alarmist things about furries. ;)

    The point though of those type of exercises isn't to become tran species but to try to understand the issue by personalizing it. Again children aren't usually good at abstract thinking.

    That said if you don't know what it looks like how then do you know that teachers are "grooming" children into a lifestyle?
     
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    Allowing teachers to advise kids not to view others (or themselves) as weirdos if transgender seems totally fine to me. I understand why many adults who do exactly that would object to such “lessons” on how to be a decent, respectful person.

    The pronouns thing is also pretty normal these days as a way to be more inclusive for the minority of folks who are trans, even though it is triggering for many conservatives.

    I feel there are more important things to get riled up about.
     
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