Psaki Says "Gender Affirming Care" for Kids Is 'Best Practice'

Learning that saying gay people exist is now "Sexually explicit information"

A book about how a little boy can wear dresses is now "Sexually explicit" and "Grooming"

and wtf is...
"They aren’t grooming kids for a specific pedophile, necessarily. They’re grooming them for a system of pedophilia — which in the long run will result in horrors we can’t comprehend. Find your courage and stop it."

Can any of the people here explain this system of pedophilia?

 

I have a third grade son.

I was concerned at first about the fact that what he is being taught is different than what I was taught in a number of ways. A lot of time is spent on teaching children safety and also things like how to identify abuse, physical and mental and there are psychiatrists at his elementary school. They do not have much homework and a teacher can simply decide to cancel class and take the kids outside.

Having said that, it has been very positive for him. His school has extremely high test scores and he is scoring in the top 1% of students his age. He also has several teachers that are gay, that are transgender or are in alternative relationships. He has a couple people in his class that are male by birth but choose to wear skirts and they are generally not treated poorly.... I have sat in on what they are taught and read.

They do read books where some characters are gay or transgender, and they have learned that some people that are born males choose to be females, and that there are gay people and that they are no better or worse than anyone else.

We have access to everything that they do school wise and I talk to my son often..... he seems very well adjusted with the idea that people are different, and he thus far does not view himself as the opposite gender, and in his entire elementary score there are at most 3-4 kids that do, and that is consistent with the larger population being transgender as a whole.

They are being taught to embrace who they are and to not be ashamed of who they are. No one is trying to turn students gay or transgender.

I understand that parents have different opinions, but I believe that not exposing children to the reality of people is a disservice to them.... they are going to live in a world where there are gay and transgender people, the movement isn't going to stop or go away.... and it is best that they learn to operate in the world they will live in...... a handful of years ago parents were upset that so much of their work was done on an I-Pad, said it should all be on paper.

The world changes, and in many cases the world is getting better.... people are more informed, and in many cases are more empathetic.

This hysteria will sell for awhile..... just like the prayer in school..... segregated classes... and the evil of hippies sold for awhile...... but this is going to be the new reality.

 

Some people on the right tie in homosexuality with pedophilia.

It is an easy "win" for them because no one likes pedophiles (Unless they run for Senate in Alabama and are backed by Trump).....

The far Right currently does have an odd fascination with conspiracy theories and pedophiles.

 

The bargain that we have made in this country is that the state and religion are separate. You can teach those moral lessons in the abstract, but the specifics have to be left out of the classroom. Having repugnant beliefs is part of a free society. Certain religions think your beliefs are as terrible as you think theirs are. The only way to get along is to keep the specifics out of the classroom and agree to disagree - to tolerate others beliefs.

 

@Jontro
Psaki is sexy ?

 

I didn't know that I liked a post calling you an Islamist. I don't think you are an Islamist.

EDIT: I found the post you are talking about and I didn't mean to "like" that one, but the one by @Invisible Fan

 

How is that? So there is only one acceptable lifestyle?

 

Also, I forgot to address this part....... I was firmly against gender reassignment surgery for children and I still am in almost all cases. I thought it was absurd when I first heard about it, and felt that nothing of the sort should be done to a minor and I also found it odd that the same people that support gender reassignment surgery typically are against circumcision as well.

However, as I started to research it further, and ask more questions and also see what the actual process is; it isn't what people primarily think it is.... and treatment is far more in depth than people think.

It is odd to me, I am not transgender...... but I do believe that my child should be taught that they exist and that they are as valuable as anyone else.

 

She smokes.... so she likely likes the pokes.

 

It all started with the dancing. Should have never allowed that dirty filthy dancing. It’s a slippery slope people. We allowed the dancing and now look what we have. The gay people want everyone to be gay. Thank goodness Texas has Abbott as Governor. He don’t dance and if he’s gay, he stays in the closet like a good Republican.

 

Trump had sex with a 13 year old girl he is a pedo, as is Gaetz.

DD

 

In one sentence you claim you think school children should be taught to be accepting of all people including gay people. And in the very next sentence you say schools should not teach that being gay is an acceptable lifestyle.

 

what is a psaki?

 

Right, but there is a difference in tolerating beliefs and tolerating that some people exist or not. The latter is the issue here. Trans people have a variety of beliefs as well, some are pretty staunch republicans, but we should be teaching that these people exist and that is that.

as @Nook pointed out. They aren't going away.

I posit this then, if you do have a child it is better they learn to tolerate that these people exist now than later...because later their bigotry could get them fired. That is the world we live in and LGBTQ+ people are not just going away.

 

Nope. I said schools should not promote any lifestyle as the acceptable one. Straight, gay, furry, Christian, etc. Teach the basic morals (compassion, empathy, tolerance) without a religious or progressive angle. If Billy wants to wear a dress - we are a free society, he can do that, don't be mean to him. The other kids are either mature enough to know why Billy is wearing a dress or not. It's not the teachers job to be a moral arbiter. Move on to the math lesson.

 

Imagine a PTA where the teacher can not address pronouns to a "cross dressing tranny" who also happens to be a parent because these tiktoc campaigns became politically successful in certain states.

There's a slippery slope mentality among folks who wanted to "sound reasonable" initially claiming, "I don't have a problem with gays but...I don't want to see them kissing in public." into seeing full blown trans and non-binary people in public. That's where it's proven whether that reasonable person "had a problem" or not.

Some are clever enough not to outright reject that directly so they mock the "insanity of pronouns." They just can't imagine trans being normalized or think children or parents can frequent the same schools or institutions they attend to.

I admit I did a side eye the first time I saw a trans person at a work meeting, but over time I realized it was more a problem with me over the problem I thought they had. I have made transphobic jokes on here over the years and I would still think it can be funny in crude and hateful way.

So I'm beyond from acting enlightened or level 7 plus ultra woke but I am trying because I can't allow myself to ignore the experiences of the people I worked with or read about on my own.

I don't really get the origin of the pronouns and have some issues of it's communication but imo teaching it in third grade is far more benign than having kids torture someone who falls under that alphabet soup or is labeled it by association.

I know it's a different time but it seems like we're only motivated to change when that difference impacts us differently. We're at a point where we want to pick good traits and trash/abort traits like Downs. Heaven forbid your healthy and smart child is non-binary or "extra gullible to believe the indoctrination to choose to become what you don't expect them to be"

 

I think parents who do not vaccinate their children or have them wear masks should be charged with child abuse.

 

Well it seems like you are in agreement with the very thing you are criticizing. The school is not promoting any lifestyle as acceptable, they are saying all lifestyle are acceptable.

And kids are not "mature" by design, most need to be taught that a boy choosing to wear a dress or lipstick is as acceptable as a boy wearing jeans.

 

"Without a progressive angle"? Teaching people to be accepting of all people is a "progressive angle"? Seems it is both a religious instruction (in numerous verses) and instruction from our country's Declaration of Independence.

But beyond that... one kid teases another kid for being "different". Should the teacher be the "moral arbiter"? And how would the teacher explain to the kid bullying the other that it is wrong because the victim of bullying should be accepted?

Or... one kid teases the other because that kid has same sex parents? Or... the teacher mentions his spouse is same sex... kids begin to giggle. Is it wrong if the teacher explains that same sex couples should be accepted? Or do you consider that "progressive angle" or worse, "indoctrination"? Should the teacher be fired for discussing "sexual orientation"? After all, the Florida law says that is now illegal: