Kevin Samuels asks women to be: Fit, Feminine and Cooperative That appears to be too much for the Modern Woman The guys in the MANosphere points out the hypocrazy of some women. Like he told one woman - She was like 5'9 250 - You're built like a football player HE wasn't lying. I think that was Emmet Smith at his best Yet these same women looking like Lizzo . . . will scream they cannot date short men (I am not Anti-Lizzo but she is a big gurl) They point out that women want the 6-6-6 6 Ft Tall 6 pack 6 figures This is from women working Fries at McDonalds. So while I don't agree with him always . .. I can say I have seen enough of these attitudes to know he is not talking in a vacuum Rocket River
This is a unicorn in their world, too. 6-6-6 is a unicorn in most women's worlds, to be honest. But these fry-flipping ladies have four babydaddies, and you know that while some may be 6 feet tall and thin (with a light 6-pack), they don't have 5 figures, let alone 6 figures.
That is another thing he talks about How women are more comfortable becoming a baby momma .. than becoming a wife. As a man . . . I ain't trying to do MORE for the same thing someone else did LESS for. Some of his Sayings strike some sharp points Name something that gets more valuable with age and use? Rocket River
You can flip everything you said for men as well. I don't see how women get singled out for this. Women seem to be far more forgiving when it comes to physical attributes than men, and it's not always about money either.
The fact that Kevin Samuels is actually a thing and commands this much attention and wealth by espousing his crackpot ideas is very sad, I say the same about Rogan, it's amazing how receptive people are when you tell them what they want to hear. But that has been the story since the beginning of time, you would think we would have evolved to be more discriminating, but here we are.
The entire concept of being a high value man. The fact that men should feel superior and women should be subservient. That women need to act a certain way. That men need to exert control over women. The whole "Modern women" thing is bonkers and reductive, it's like white people saying black people need to know their place.
There is no argument that there are specific men who are alpha male 'shiners' and captains of whatever industry they are in. The best mate fit for them, according to KS, is a traditional, feminine woman who sees her role in their relationship as supporting the man 100% to further their shared success. I can tell you personally as a goal-oriented entrepreneur who has had some success, I wouldn't have had the time or energy to achieve what I have without a woman who supported me 100%. I can't imagine dating some drama, high-maintenance queens that are out there and trying to build my businesses. I'm not saying that I'm a high value man but I can relate to what he says here. There's also no doubt that there is a segment of women who are spoiled, pampered and entitled, far beyond their means. KS calls this out and how it has an affect on women and men. It's a toxic lifestyle unless it's their brand like the Kardashians.
There is a segment of women who fit the former and there are a segment of men who fit the latter, it's not about gender and anybody who thinks gender has any bearing on roles in society I look at sideways. To me, that is masking over something mentally or emotionally that makes you feel the need to be superior to someone else and search out things to validate those feelings. I don't really give a **** what KS thinks is the best fit for an alpha male, and anybody that needs to be labeled an alpha male is lacking something IMO. It's not an either or, you don't have to be either "traditional" or be high maintenance, spoiled pampered and entitled, women have just as many facets as men. I don't know what the Kardashians have to do with anything, they are more like aliens than normal people. I can't relate to any of this, but I look at all women as equal unless they prove otherwise, and I don't want anyone that is traditional or subservient, because I want a partner to challenge me on my **** and make me a better man. I think this type of stuff is comparable to the incel stuff just shined up a bit and like I said before reeks of a lot of the same thought process that white people used to denigrate black people. I am not trying to make this personal to you Xerobull if it works for you and yours that's cool but I this type of talk makes me feel some type of way and that's probably because I have known abusers who think like this and have some abuse that was close to home.
Are they really though? Honestly Since i have little interest in men . . . I don't care as much or pay as much attention. So . . .I don't disagree with you Rocket River
Honestly His basic premise is . .. . Women get to DEMAND what they want in a man so Men should be able to DEMAND what they want in a woman He is results oriented.. . . . IF you not getting what you want .. . why? Rocket River
True, but it goes deeper than that Women get to demand what they want in men while men are shamed for what they want in women The typical shaming tactic is saying men are insecure or saying men are shallow But KS also preaches men need financial stability and should pay majority/all of the bills
I dunno wtf a high value man is anymore (maybe I need to earn more and be less cheap lol), but I've seen the vids posted on here and the point that resonates with me is that there are more unhappy and older singles for both men and women. There are a lot of professional aged women who date boys and later expect men to handle all of their emotional, financial, and physical sometimes social needs in order to give up what they have. Then there are boys who suddenly old out their age range and find that their life choices are just as limited, so you might have the peculiar case of choosing to birth children out of wedlock rather than living together dysfunctionally. So I think he's trying to communicate that people either have to lay out their expectations, think it over and see what's realistic and what isnt, or...live in their delusions until they realize they have to settle with someone who tolerates their delusions (and abuse). Do women deeply want to "retire" if/when they raise a family? What are their expectations then in terms of workload and overall income? Are they entitled to it based on the social ladder we all use in the amount it takes to swipe left or right? These are all messy conversations because it's primal and sometimes "outdated" or "taboo" in terms of how the public communicates romance (wrapped in PC bullshit and lies), but we still use the same old standards in online dating which means it's more pervasive yet unspoken. If that is the person or couple's truth, then he's doing them a service by surfacing their needs now rather than an expensive couples therapist or a messy divorce with even more pricey lawyers.
Agreed. KS also points out that WOMEN THINK men want what they want Which is their biggest downfall. So they out there trying to do what men do . . . make more money . . . be more 'masculine' When men reject that the woman's response is not to change the fit what the man wants but to try to change the man's mind on what he wants . .. through shame, pressure and manipulation i.e. Men say they don't want a high body count Women say they don't mind a high body count so men shouldn't either - and if he does he is Slutshaming or some such Rocket River
Most women don’t do things like earn money, etc. because they think that is what men want. Most young women don’t give a **** what men in general want.
