Duren is worst of the center prospects... mentally he isn't there. Takes himself out of games trying to be a hero. Give me Williams or Kessler. Auburn didn't have a post an offensive post presence but the run a lot of screens, pick & roll with Kessler catching lobs at the rim. He is a good finisher. Obviously who could become the best but he is probably going to have the longest development road. Don't trade up in this weak draft. -_-
Yeah Im steering clear of Duren. Any 'rim protector' outside the top 3 actually. I think if you were inclined you could buy a 2nd rounder and take a shot with Nzosa, Kamagate, Koloko or Cockburn in that range and look for true offensive machines with your first rounders. Would be great to use the Nets pick + whatever (minus young nucleus) to entice Portland to give up one of their picks. If not with the Nets pick I'd be looking to upgrade from Tate with a guy like Sochan, Jovic, PBJ or again moving up for a guy like AJ Griffin. (assuming the first pick was used on one of the consensus big men.)
You can say this about all the top 4 players, they all need to develop something for them to be elite. Aaron Gordon? Banchero's offensive game is already more diverse than Gordon, AG is the floor for Banchero.
This take is terrible, Banchero has much more skills offensively than Battier, who had no dribble drive game and was the prototype of a 3&D player. Battier was 6'8 and kind of skinny, Banchero is 6'10 250 at 19 years old. Did you really say Banchero is not much better than Tate? Lordy! This.
Kinda disagree. To say Duren is the worst of the center prospects, or lump him as another drop coverage rim protector really undersells his upside. He reclassed up a year and probably has the least experience of any other prospect in this draft, so I'm not as concerned if his understanding of the game isn't as good as someone that's been in college for 2 years. Agree he has a lot of development ahead, but if he's the pick at #13, I'm not getting upset. Williams and Kessler might be more "value", but a switchable big that doesn't restrict your teams defensive schemes/lineups, and is also strong enough to slow down guys like Jokic and Embiid is valuable.
we badly need a Duren on this team. Rebounding, rim protecting, and overall defense. He brings it with untapped developmental offensive upside. Moving up to get him with our second pick would be a huge win.
People are really underestimating Duren's potential. He's a year younger than many of the other top freshman prospects in this class. He's not supposed to be a finished product. I'm convinced Sengun is our man in the middle for the future so I don't think Duren would be a great fit because of spacing issues, but if he dropped to our second pick we should pick him up in an instant. However, I highly doubt he drops out of the top ten.
This is probably the best comparison there is for Banchero - I think he's a modern version with more outside shooting and a little less back to the basket game. These other comparisons make no sense, Shane Battier??? lol what ?!?!?
Banchero is more Blake than AG. AG is defense first, the antithesis of Banchero. But Banchero is nowhere near as explosive as either when they were drafted.
Scouts are giving Duren a Dwight Howard comp, I'll gladly take that. Sengun is giving me Scola at Center vibes
Offensively maybe he is the floor, defensively not so much. Gordon has some nasty in him, not so sure about Banchero. Just my opinion. If we got him I hope he is an absolute superstar.
I think they are both good comps. Too many fans only look at one side of the ball. The Rockets especially need to look at defense. I’ll be happy with Jabari, Chet, or Banchero. I have changed my mind on Ivey as I think with Silas’ comment on shot attempts for Jalen, Ivey would hold him back. Jalen should be like a better version of Trey Young and be absolutely the focus on every half court possession.
My bad, last time I checked Chet averaged 2.9 blocks per game. Looks like he ended season with 3.7 BPG.
I'm sure his blocks per game never dipped below 3. His first game of the season he had 7 and he was a shotblocking machine all season long. Maybe you confused him for someone else.
I am talking overall skillset, its amazing how we care about defense when it's convenient. Green was thought of as even a worse defender than Banchero but nobody said a peep leading up to the draft and now all I hear negative about Banchero is defense, I mean really WTF. I don't care about his defense it's at least adequate, and he tries, his offensive skills blow Gordon away. Give me the average defensive guy over the average offensive guy every day, especially when picking at the top of the draft. Does not matter if he has some nasty in him if he has been considered a disappointment for the majority of his career.
Never claimed to be infallible so you're likely correct. That said, the shot blocking machine has been Walker Kessler. https://www.tankathon.com/players/c...-chet-holmgren--walker-kessler--mark-williams Although Chet has been stellar in that area too. In any event, comparing Chet to other traditional centers is pointless exercise. Chet will be a 4 in the NBA. https://www.tankathon.com/players/c...n--chet-holmgren--keegan-murray--jabari-smith
