[Official] Evan Mobley as a Cleveland Cavaliers thread

Fortunately for him, he went to a team that had a big man to handle the duties that he can’t (yet). That doesn’t exist on all bad teams. Definitely doesn’t on ours.

 

Mobley will not be a 5 for a long time.

Maybe not ever.

You guys just do not want to hear it because of the fake narratives you cling to.

 

If he is a 4, he needs to develop an outside shot or play with a 5 that shoots from outside.

 

Whether he is a 4 or 5, he’s not yet physically able to handle some things you expect a big man to handle. That was his knock at draft and what he needs to improve on. No fake narrative about his warts just because he went to a team that could mask them, which isn’t typical for teams picking at the top of the draft and most certainly wasn’t for OUR team.

The only false narrative was from those crediting him for how the Cavs defense looked and for those constantly saying he would’ve looked as impressive on our team, without guards to set him up for gimmies or bigs to do the things he physically can’t (yet).

 

Yep, there are areas in his game that can be improved.

 

LOL

All that shet coming out of your mouth and he's still leading ROY.

You can't even see how a skilled, long, switchable 1-5 defensive player that doesn't foul could have helped the worst defensive team in the NBA, then you are beyond help.

 

He landed in the perfect spot and has had a great year. He should be one of the leading candidates.

We are seeing how he is helping them defensively without Allen. They are one of the worst defensive teams in basketball without him. Deny that all you like but it won’t change the truth of it. Luckily Allen played most of the season. What is actually happening on the court when he doesn’t have that type of support…which he wouldn’t have here…doesn’t show the impact you speak of.

 

You can lead a horse to water ...

... and the dumbass still won't drink.

 

You should probably quench your thirst then.

 

The problem is Evan Mobley without Jarrett Allen has a defensive rating of 113.1 (15 games), which would put him in the middle to back end among all rookies. This is a stark drop from his defensive rating for the season of 106.6.

On the other hand, in the 4 games Jarett Allen played without Mobley, his defensive rating is 109.1, proportionally a much smaller dropoff from his defensive rating for the season of 106.7.

I'm sure if Evan Mobley played on the Rockets, our defense will still be better, but probably not by much because he'll be playing with Christian Wood on defense.

 

If Mobley played at 4 while JA was out, that DefRTG would much better.

But Mobley was playing JA's spot when JA went out.

Apples to oranges, not sure why I have to keep clarifying this. Not rocket science.

And Mobley on this abysmally challenged Rockets defense would absolutely be an improvement.

How anyone could deny this is delusional.

Rockets do not have a problem scoring. They absolutely are incapable of stopping ANYONE.

 

But you can't just say that if he played 4, his defensive rating would be better. You think Mobley's numbers would sky rocket if Lauri Markkanen or Love played the 5?

You are proclaiming that he is a 1-5 switchable defender. What you really meant was he is a 1-4 switchable defender, and will be a great defender as long as you have an all-defensive center anchoring the middle. That's a fair statement, but then again Jalen Green would probably average 30 points for the whole season if he played with CP3 instead of KPJ.

 

Switchable does not mean defending all positions equally well.

Or defending 1 position all game.

Seriously guys, c'mon.

 

So if I'm understanding correctly:

1. Mobley is competent at guarding 1-3, but cannot guard these positions full time.
2. Mobley can guard 4s full time.
3. Mobley cannot guard 5s at all even though positionally 5s are his closest matchup.
4. Mobley's severe drop in defense since Allen went out is because he has been tasked to guard 5s, something he isn't capable of.

All of this, on top of Mobley being a very subpar offensive player.

I don't want to sound like I'm hating on the guy, but if I'm drafting a 4 that is supposedly an elite defender but a non-factor on offense, I wouldn't expect this many conditions for him to succeed. That's like drafting an elite perimeter defender who only excels at isolation defense, but anything else and he's at best competent or a liability.

 

His ability to switch defensively doesn’t seem to help a defense not be trash without Allen suited up. I guess whatever team he’s on needs a player like that for him to be impactful.

Seriously guy, c'mon!

 

Jalen Green can't stop scoring 30 points a game and they're still out here arguing about Evan Mobley?

 

only dumb asses argues about Mobley… stupid a$$ clowns… I choose Jalen Green over that scrub @$$ Mobley anyday lol

 

Jalen > Evan

 

You really are not understanding correctly at all.

Mobley is more than competent to switch 1-5.

Do you at least understand that switching does not mean iso defense for entire game?

Mobley was always going to struggle defending NBA 5's full time in his rookie season, this has never been in contention by anyone.

Mobley has consistently been top 5 in scoring for all rookies all season - not bad for a non-factor on offense amirite?

In fact, it is Mobley's vet like consistency game after game that had him comfortably in KIA ROY lead for most of season. For most of season, he helped his team win, bottom line.

And finally, Mobley leads all rookies with 20 double doubles.

Mobley's game like his demeanor is nuanced but reliable, this can be hard to grasp by those who only prefer the flashy aesthetics.