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NCAA Tournament Prospect Tracker

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by finsraider, Mar 17, 2022.

  1. ApacheWarrior

    ApacheWarrior Member

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    Is Banchero that good? Really?

    I know it looks like he is not doing much and puts up 20 pts and 10 rebounds;
    But is he good? I see Shane Battier good but plain vanilla.

    Battier was a 3 & D specialist, where Banchero doesn't shoot many
    3's and his defense is not semi- lockdown like Battier.

    Difference is Paolo is a big frame that is more productive than
    a Shane Battier around the rim.....but if Battier was 6'10". He would
    have been just as disruptive and productive.

    I neither move up into the top 3 nor past 4 in this draft. My solid #4 pick.
    I see him more as a man among boys in his highschool days and much the
    same in college. Pros will be a different animal for him.

    Kinda plain vanilla in a fancy wrapper/package
     
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    The thing concerning to me is whether his athleticism and explosion- does it come back? Even if he can’t create, his floor could be a high level 3-and-D role player. But when I watched him in the tournament, he was not getting off the floor well at all.

    Even on the nice transition finger roll, it looked to me like he got a flat tire on the way up — high school highlights version of Griffin would have dunked that.
     
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  3. Ekiu

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    He is 6'10", 250# at 19... He will bully plenty of pros.

    He has a 41" vert. He can pass, create for himself, create for others. He is FLUID, good shooting form, great footwork.

    His biggest weakness is literally his conditioning, which obviously affects his defense. He has fewer red flags than anyone else in the draft.

    I feel like in recent years there is always that one prospect that people over think... Maybe Banchero is this year's version.
     
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    He may well be the best in this draft, but to be elite he will need to develop a really potent 3 pt threat. He could still be a very good PF, ala Aaron Gordon.
     
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    I highly doubt that 41 inch vert is accurate.
    He certainly doesn’t play with that kind of explosiveness.
     
  6. vator

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    If people like Scottie Barnes then this is an easy pick. Banchero is also better than Barnes
     
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  8. Ekiu

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    Everyone needs to develop to be elite... He has the fewest hurdles to become elite in the '22 draft class.

    Also I'm not sold on him or any big needing to develop a potent 3. People said the same thing about Giannis. I'd say he is elite without a potent 3... I guess Giannis isnt fair he is above elite level, legendary.

    DeRozan is elite AND he is a guard.
     
  9. vator

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    Another guy to keep an eye on for the BKN pick.



     
  10. Tuckankhamun

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    DeRozan is the player James Harden haters think Harden is. A total liability whenever April comes around, and the greatest argument against "Midrange shooting = playoff success".

    I too doubt the 41" vertical, considering that would be the highest vertical leap of anyone 6'10" or over of all time. Beating out Dwight Howard (40") and Shaq (38"). Man looks and plays nothing like a young Howard or Orlando Shaq.

    Maybe I'm wrong and he's actually Giannis with Hakeem's skills in Blake Griffin's body, but I haven't seen that from him this year.
     
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  11. vator

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    Mark Williams has a freakish 7’7-7’8 wingspan and 9’8 standing reach. For comparison sakes, Bruno Fernando has 7’3-7’4 wingspan and 9’1-9’2 standing reach. Garuba’s wingspan is 7’2-7’3.

     
  12. Imanimal

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    This is the best review of Blanchero I have seen. Couldn’t have said it better. Battier but a bit taller with a bit less effort and defense and that’s Blanchero spot on. Not a bad player, but not that much better than Tate in my opinion. In a good draft he goes 6-7 range, but this draft we’re looking at 2-4 range.
     
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  13. Imanimal

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    Not a good comparison at all. Barnes was/is a lockdown defender who plays every game like it’s his last, Blanchero is a weak defender and lacks motivation at times. Still like the guy based on what’s out there and would hope Lucas could work the defensive magic he’s done with Green to help this kid.
     
  14. Tuckankhamun

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    Chet = Bol Bol and Zhou Qi combined but worse
    Banchero = Shane Battier but with bad defense and no effort

    Can't wait to hear your astute takes on Jabari and Ivey.

    I'll guess Jabari is KD and Giannis combined but better, and Ivey is James Harden Skill in Westbrook's body.
     
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    Would love to get Mark Williams with our 16 pick….he is definitely legit and maybe fell to our second pick range with his choke job last night.
     
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    Yes….I have Jabrari Smith as the #1 pick and by a landslide. He has the body, size, shooting, and defense that fit the NBA perfectly. Poor man’s KD which is more than enough. Can only dream of KPJ, Green, KMJ, Wood, and Smith on the floor at the same time. That is athletism off the charts and fixes our size issues. As far as Ivey, think he’ll have a better NBA career than college. Gifted athletism and shooter with decent defense. Poor man’s taller version of Iverson. Would love to have him, but the Rockets issues aren’t at PG with KPJ and Christopher (Nix & EG) already there.
     
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  17. Ekiu

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    Edit looked it up, Miles Plumlee("the less athletic Plumlee") has the highest official for anyone over 6'10" at 40.5". Also Dwight was measured at 6'9".

    There are few two footed leapers(J Rich) who look crazy explosive in game... I don't know why. Pat Connaughton posted 44" at the combine.

    I'm just looking at what the number say again the combine will tell more.
     
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    Banchero with a 41 inch vert? That vert must disappear and go into hiding once the game starts

    Banchero, the layup line gawd?
     
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    Depends on what you value most in a star type player. Short answer is YES! Banchero is THAT good. I dont remember Battier breaking ankles, and creating plays for others or bulldozing his way to the rim. 3&D in my opinion is a better descriptor for both Chet and Jabari since it completely ignores how great Paolo is with the ball in his hands.

    Paolo will play bully ball in the NBA. He will do it well. You give him the ball on last possessions and good things will happen. He is a decent free throw shooter which should translate into better 3 pt shooting. 33% percent on outside shots is not “bad” but for some reason he needs to be 7pts higher to be considered “good” even when most of his game comes from within the arc. I welcome a team that uses the midrange as a weapon again.

    There have been some strange baselines for Paolo all year. He is an offensive freak. He sees the court and is a willing passer. His footwork is unparalleled for his age - it was the first thing I noticed when I started watching him 2 years ago and it’s gotten better with more experience.

    For every fan the vision will have to be who they feel fits best with Jalen Green and there can be a variety of ways to reach the promised land with that type of player. I’ve been able to see paths with any of the top 5-6 picks this year. I like players with high IQs who aren’t too one dimensional on offense. Critical games will boil down to a play or two and while having elite level 3 pt shooting or rim protection is great I feel good coaches can account for those type of specialist players. Harder IMO when you have multiple guys able to break down defenses and create when the game is on the line.

    Just my personal preference on roster construct, but I think Banchero is a way better player than Shane Battier at least in college and Coach K has even said as much himself that Paolo was the best player he ever coached. Bold statement. Paolo came in with other 5 star guys and they all gravitated to him. When Duke wanted to win they would play through Paolo, last night they got away from that. There is a bunch of overthinking a sure thing for projections and chain of events needed to reach potentials. For Paolo it’s shoot better and commit to playing D? I’ll take that bet.
     
  20. cheke64

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    first it was Cade Cunningham compared to Shane Battier. Now it's Banchero. I know for a fact you guys know jack ****.
     
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