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[CNN] Official review of Trump phone logs from January 6 finds record is complete

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  1. Os Trigonum

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    disappointing news for the seven-hour-gap conspiracy theorists, but look at the bright side . . . CNN is kicking ass with its new policy of actually reporting news

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/31/poli...trump-jan-6-white-house-phone-logs/index.html

    Washington (CNN) In the seven hours during which White House records show no phone calls to or from then-President Donald Trump on January 6, 2021, among the calls that are conspicuously absent is one Trump made to then-Vice President Mike Pence that morning from the Oval Office.

    While the call is not specifically noted in the presidential diary or the presidential call log, its existence has been corroborated by multiple sources who were with Trump and Pence that day, including former aides who testified before the House select committee investigating the US Capitol attack.

    And it's not the only call Trump is known to have made in that timeframe that is not reflected in the records.

    The mystery of the seven-hour gap has fueled furious speculation as to why calls are missing. That includes allegations that Trump was using "burner phones" (which he has denied) or that the logs were purposely suppressed.

    But the gap might have a less mysterious explanation.

    According to multiple sources familiar with Trump's phone behavior and the White House switchboard records, the January 6 log reflects Trump's typical phone habits. He mainly placed calls through the switchboard when he was in the residence but rarely used it when he was in the Oval Office. The fact the log does not show calls on January 6, 2021, from the Oval Office is not unusual, said the sources, because Trump typically had staff either place calls directly for him on landlines or cell phones. Those calls would not be noted on the switchboard log.

    The six pages of White House switchboard logs for January 6, 2021, are complete based on an official review of White House records, according to a source familiar with the matter. There are no missing pages and the seven-hour gap is likely explained by use of White House landlines, White House cell phones and personal cell phones that do not go through the switchboard.

    The missing calls also underscore something more endemic: the imperfect and antiquated system of tracking a president's communications.

    The White House call log is generated by a switchboard system that dates back to the 1960s, according to the National Archives. The version installed in 1963 was already considered"somewhat outdated" just two decades later.

    And it's certainly not one suited for the era of cell phones and text messages or to a President well known for his efforts to circumvent official channels of communications.​

    much more detail in the article, and don't worry, Trump isn't out of the woods yet, still lots of issues with figuring out who he talked to and when and about what

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    #1 Os Trigonum, Apr 1, 2022
  2. tinman

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    You amateur
    You are suppose to post Fox News cause that’s the only news station that these losers retweet
     
    #2 tinman, Apr 1, 2022
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    It's easier to report news when certain world leaders don't flood the zone with **** designed to inflame half the voters out there.

    I do appreciate a regression to the mean rather than accepting a new normal, if that's what you're getting at.
     
    #3 Invisible Fan, Apr 1, 2022
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    Impeach him again anyway.
     
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  5. dobro1229

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    This just tells us what we already knew while trying to give cover to Trump. We just knew from the Woodward reporting that Trump and his minions were using cell phones. Were they burner phones or do the subpoenaed call records give us what what discussed and coordinated during those 7 hour?

    The committee and likely the DOJ need to know what those being investigated for coordinating the coup were doing and saying in that crucial timeframe. The gap just shows that all what they were doing was using PRIVATE cell phones and emails. (BUT HER EMAILS!!!)

    At least we know Obama wasn't wiretapping Trump and his minions during those 7 hours though right!?! Obama sleeping on the job.
     
    #5 dobro1229, Apr 1, 2022
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    You are so intellectual dishonest it is funny. Actually it isn’t it is just sad.
     
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  8. jo mama

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    the media has been reporting on hunters laptop the whole time. what exactly have they not been reporting about it that they should be? what exactly is on the laptop that connects biden to a crime? i keep asking this and none of yall can answer.

    more from the article that the threadstarter (conveniently) left out...
    Chaotic record-keeping
    Multiple sources have described the record-keeping during the Trump administration as generally chaotic. Those sources, as well as witnesses who have testified as part of previous congressional investigations related to the former President's conduct described Trump as deeply suspicious of the White House switchboard and detailed various ways he sought to avoid having records of certain phone calls from being kept.
    A Senate Intelligence report from 2020 includes witness testimony from former aides saying that Trump regularly used the cellphone of his body man, Keith Schiller, to place calls to Republican operative Roger Stone because he did not want his to advisers to know they were talking.
    "Trump hated people knowing who he spoke to, including from the residence at night when they went through the switchboard," one former Trump official told CNN.
    When John Kelly was Trump's chief of staff, he monitored the switchboard to see who Trump was talking to. Trump would often tell people to hang up and call him back on his cellphone if he didn't want it showing up on the switchboard call log.
    When Mark Meadows took over as chief of staff, sources said he restricted the number of White House officials who had access to the call logs, limiting the group to only a small number of top aides.

    Filling in the gaps
    Despite the gap in the call logs, the House select committee is relying on witness testimony, additional documents and phone records obtained via subpoena to begin piecing together who Trump spoke to that day.
    This is especially true for the missing call to Pence. That call is a key point in the House's argument that Trump was taking part in criminal activity, as he kept pressuring Pence to block Congress from certifying the election. Trump has not been charged with any crime.
    Pence's former national security adviser, Keith Kellogg, described the call in his testimony before the committee earlier this year, telling investigators that he and other top aides were in the Oval Office with Trump when it took place. He said he could only hear what Trump said, and not Pence's responses.
    Kellogg's recounting of the conversation was cited in the committee's letter in late January to Trump's daughter, Ivanka, requesting that she too appear before the panel and cooperate in the probe.
    "As January 6th approached, President Trump attempted on multiple occasions to persuade Vice President Pence to participate in his plan. One of the President's discussions with the Vice President occurred by phone on the morning of January 6th," the letter stated.
    "You were present in the Oval Office and observed at least one side of that telephone conversation. General Keith Kellogg was also present in the Oval Office during that call, and has testified about that discussion," it added.
     
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