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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Can't believe you would post this nonsense.
     
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    I've read those studies a year back and it said it's naturally cold up there which makes social gatherings less an occasion than say a wedding in July. Also the swedish culture naturally practice social distancing and were fairly good at vaccination rates. Seemed like they were more individually prudent than Americans are as a whole.

    Maybe we should be more like Sweden and follow their entire healthcare system.

    Uproot all we know and copy theirs. No cherry picking or nuance teasing.
     
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  4. No Worries

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    New large study shows Ivermectin makes things worse

    Once again, a study from the Brazilian clinical trial known as TOGETHER published in the New England Journal of Medicine has shown that Ivermectin has no positive benefits for people suffering COVID-19 and likely makes things worse.

     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    Ivermectin and masks have one thing in common - at best, they are mostly placebos.

    But they have their rabid followers.

    Time for the mask mandate in airports and planes to fall. All these airline CEOs have already written to Biden. It's ridiculous.
     
  6. NewRoxFan

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    Wisconsin Attorney General Candidate Is Looking to Bring Homicide Charges Against Docs ‘Because of Vaccines’
    It shouldn’t come as a surprise that Karen Mueller also tried to get the Supreme Court to overturn the state’s 2020 election results

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...rney-general-prosecute-doctors-covid-1330500/
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    On a scale of 1 - 100 with 1 being never and 100 being always, how do you rate masks working?
     
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    Depends on the mask. Huge difference between wear a cloth mask loosely over your face and wearing a properly fitted surgical mask or an N95. Hospital admins aren’t fools for requiring doctors/nurses to wear them when dealing with COVID patients.
     
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    Yes, but making every day Joe and even toddlers wear N95s for 10 hours nonstop is just insanity and leads to bad compliance and therefore almost no effect. I wore one for 12+ hours yesterday and it really is more than a small nuisance after a while.
     
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    It works damn well in Asia, where infected people wear them in the event they need to be outside. That's not what's being argued in the studies quoted but both transmission and prevention rates are legit considerations in this context.

    That's the rub in all of this. Having rules where you selectively take off your mask for whatever reason reduces efficacy of such a public mandate, but the financial effects to this for dine in restaurants was deemed an overriding reason.

    Once that door was cracked open, everything else followed, from public officials breaking rules in public gatherings to all the other hair splitting and hair scratching moments.
     
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    He was right then. Didn't he also say that masks are not advised in the beginning of the pandemic?
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Over 6 million people must not have gotten the news that they were better protected if they were infected with COVID.
     
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    We're still rehashing things from 2004 and from the beginning of the pandemic? People act like knowledge is somehow a static thing and that somehow when facing a novel virus that we should've known everything about it back in 2020.
     
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    He said that in order to save the masks for health care workers not because he felt they were ineffective.

    He said as much. But sadly a lot of people seem to drink up uninformed messages based on ignorance and lack of context. We should all hope their ignorance disappears soon.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Good luck with that
     
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    It doesn't hurt to hope. Even if it's just reduced, that's a good thing.
     
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    No, he said they don't do much.

    Of course, that was heavily censored afterwards, here as well, and it was said it was "missing context" by fact checkers.

    But he said it, plain and clear.

     
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    Both these videos just posted on the last page of this thread are correct statements by Fauci:

    1) Natural infection provides the best immunity
    2) Masks don't do much, they might "make you feel better"

    Of course, he said a lot of other stuff at other times, but those statements by him are actual reflections of science. And the data confirms that if you read it correctly.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    The flu isn't Covid-19. Learning more as we move forward in our knowledge is a good thing and is how science works. Natural immunity is a good thing. It certainly isn't the best protection.

    We know the best protection is natural immunity plus vaccination.
     

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