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Davis Mills - From not to hot

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  1. cmoak1982

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    It’s more year one as a full time starter with starter reps. That’s besides the point.

    If he does what others have said in terms of numbers, wins shouldn’t be the standard. Some people aren’t going to be happy even if he does put up 4K yards 30 TDs and 10 or less picks.
     
  2. cmoak1982

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    If Mills puts up 3900 yds, 26/10 td/int, 67% and a passer rating around 98. Is that enough?
     
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    I fully expect you to be here gloating after he throws an interception. I also expect you to disappear the games when he throws 300 yards, 3 tds, 0 int.
     
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    You already know lol, there’s a couple of them like that.
    Haters
     
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  5. DatRocketFan

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    what r u rambling about.
    U btch about watson being a meh qb when he set numbers, but has losing record with a sht team.
    Now basically moving the goal post for Mills.

    I fully except us to win more games and for him to set better numbers. Otherwise we move on.
    We r in rebuild mode, hitting on the best qb is the best way to move forward.
    If mills can't perform up to task, u draft a different qb as a back up plan, it's not that complicated.

    I highly doubt we will get a positive overall record, but there's need to b a more positive trend.
     
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  6. cmoak1982

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    What? First, use real words you dipshit.
    Second, you claim Watson is elite because of his last season and they didn’t get wins. Keep the same energy for Mills if he does.

    I’ve said multiple times Watsons last season was great individually, but coming off a 10 win season to 4 was rough.
    We know this team doesn’t have talent. Mills is one of the only young bright spots on the offensive side currently. If he puts up numbers, he’s the guy.
    I know you don’t want him to succeed, he’s not the right type of guy for you.
    Get over it
     
  7. DatRocketFan

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    i want a franchise qb. If he doesn't look like one, and he doesn't so far we move on.

    I do not want to waste time on a Hoyer, Savage, Mallet qb project just to flounder around once more.

    I claim Watson is elite b/c he puts up the number and he has his moments in playoffs. U r the one shtting on him b/c of his w/l record regardless of the talent on the team and the sht coach.

    u r the one grading Mills on a different standard.
    Right type? do i have a type? All I want is a franchise qb, it's not that complicated. We literally have one franchise qb, our whole entire inception of 20 years.
     
  8. tmacfor35

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    It is really hard seeing the Texans compete for anything for the next 6-7 years. They are in the wrong conference.

    Joe Burrow
    Russel Wilson
    Lamar Jackson
    Patrick Mahomes
    Justin Herbert
    Deshaun Watson
    ....

    Are you kidding me?

    Only way to compete is to ignore offense, hope Mills becomes great and draft Defense heavy for years.
     
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  9. cmoak1982

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    Huh?

    Are you simple?
    You’re claiming Mills is Hoyer, Mallet and any other number of nobodies that haven’t done what he’s done. And in the same breath say if he puts up numbers and doesn’t win he’s not the guy. You’re a hypocrite and an idiot.

    Watson can put up “numbers” on a bad team and he’s elite to you, but Mills isn’t. What a joke.

    You can check my receipts, I’ve claimed Watson had his only ELITE season when they won 4 games. I’ve said he wasn’t elite compared to his peers (top 5).
    He’s a very good QB but isn’t elite yet.

    You’re writing off Mills before he does anything, but gave Watson the benefit of the doubt when a lot of times he didn’t deserve it.

    And Watson has done jackshit in the playoffs.

    Stop being a hater, it’s too obvious why Mills isn’t your cup of tea.
     
  10. Mr.Scarface

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    Um...only 2 of them has won a super bowl. Watson and Lamar have won 1 playoff game, Herbert hasn't made it to the playoffs. I still don't know how good Burrow will actually be. You left off Josh Allen, who probably on the best team in the AFC. Texans can compete with good QB play. Look who had the #1 seed in the AFC...Titans, with Tannehill at QB (ugh).
     
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    His evaluation criteria for me is waayy different than Watsons.
    First of all I was a huuuge Watson fan and there was never a doubt he should start. The only thing to see about Watson was would he be a top 3 starter (which he was)
    If you expect your next QB to be as good or better than Watson, then we would either to get lucky or wait a long time.

    The evaluation for mills for me is, can he be a good QB and lead the team on offense when provided weapons and protection. He is not going to be able to perform like Watson with a crappy protection.
     
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    With a salary cap the way it is in the NFL windows open and close all the time. You can’t really project 6 years out.
     
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    What has mills done that isn't any different from mallet, hoyer, savage?
    Won a few games, lost a sht ton.


    I don't even know how u could compare Watson to mills. Hell u could list any of the top 10 qb and mills pales in comparison.

    Top 10 qbs r fking franchise qbs (debatable). If mills doesn't look like he is able to b one we fking move on. I don't want a qb that serviceable (hoyer,savage, mallet). I want a franchise qb that will b the foundation of a team.


    Watson did more for our franchise than the previous 15 seasons, where we actually had a chance of advancing further via chief game.
    Literally the only game where we actually was leading.
    But yea u r right we did jack sht. Hence y I am pissed off at upper management and BoB.

    Imagine one of our best seasons was with an accused sex predator who u said did Jack sht. Imagine how pathetic our franchise is then.
     
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  14. cmoak1982

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    He’s gone. Follow his piece of **** ass on to Cleveland.
    He did nothing at all for this franchise or city.
    Mills had a stretch of games as good as any rookie in the league.
    And Watson damn sure didn’t lead this franchise to many wins.
    Mills is the guy this season, and hopefully much more. So take your ignorant, hatin ass on somewhere.
     
  15. cmoak1982

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    Watson was never a top 3 QB.
     
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    Yeah, he took the biggest dump on us of any QB from the previous 15 seasons, hands down. F*CK that creep.
     
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  17. DatRocketFan

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    Dude the problem with u is your hatred for watson " crimes" clouds your ability to judge mills or watson. Stop fking coping.

    Watson won 2 division titles with us. We have a total of 6 in our entire fking franchise.
    Watson won 28 out of 54 games more than half the games he started.
    Watson got us as far as Schaub did in playoffs.

    Mills has yet done jack sht.

    Mills had a stretch of games as good as any rookie in the league. He led one of the shttiest team in the nfl.

    Watson is garbage as a human sure, but it's god dam annoying when u folks act like he wasnt actually good for the team when he played.

    It's one thing to hate him cause of his action towards women, but denying his skills or downplaying it is the dumbest thing casual fans should b doing unless that's your way of coping.

    the way some of u folks are acting, probably disown Kobe Bryant, calling him trash.

    This franchise always attracts the fans that want "good moral players to represent us", like that sht gets us anywhere. We need talented folks.

    20+ years and it's like we never built a team yet.
     
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  18. cmoak1982

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    Watson has done jack ****.
    He won one playoff game against a bad Josh Allen.
    He did the same as Mills did when talent was gone.
    What you’re failing to see is the comparison in rookie seasons, and writing Mills off before he even takes snaps to start his first full season. You can’t see the physical talent Mills has, you’re biased as it gets.
    Watson is talented, but you have bias there too. He wasn’t near as good as your romanticized version of him.
    The allegations made me not like the person, his play was solid but nothing earth shattering given the circumstances. He didn’t drag a bad team to new heights, which is what you’re expecting Mills to do.
    There’s only one difference between the two.
     
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  19. RockFanFirst

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    Agree. Watson's last season and Mills' first season both had defenses that couldn't stop Katy High School. Both had similar team results.

    One guy quit.

    All the off-field stuff aside, I'm choosing the guy who didn't quit. Mills has upside, clearly. He did well considering the dogsh!t he had around him. Not to mention he had an abysmal OC and a puppet for a HC. Let's see how he does with a stable coaching staff and some new, young playmaker around him. At his salary, we can afford the gamble.

    Would I rather have the DW we knew before he turned into a quitting perv? Absolutely. But that's not reality.
     
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    Here's some things that will impact Mills 2nd year (both good and bad)...

    - #1 we retained Pep Hamilton, so even though Kelly was OC, Pep was Mills primary mentor/coach and should be best suited for positioning him scheme wise for success.
    - #2 OL will have some continuity (with Tunsil, JB, others returning) and some more competition with AJ Cann and hopefully others coming aboard. Also excited after listening to Coach Warhop speak. Really hope we add 1-2 big nasties in the draft.
    - #3 Mills work athletic and some certainty that it's his job to lose. Confidence is such an important aspect for a young player and Mills finished strong and set himself up to build on that finish.
    - #4 Offensive talent needs to grow. Cooks is our #1 WR, but can Collins make a jump to be our #2? Who is our slot? RB1 is who exactly? Is Brown really our TE1 or can Brevin Jordan develop more as a blocker? Who is our RT--Howard, Heck or a rookie? If Howard is RT, who is our LG?

    The first 3 areas are all trending in the right direction, but #4 impacts them all. Part of #4 is player development, FA acquisitions and then the draft. I'm glad we resigned some of our key defensive vets, that should help solidify continuity for Lovie's D, but like the offense he needs more talent as well, which brings us to Caserio.

    He's got a ton of draft capital this year and I expect he'll be doing some wheeling/dealing with our picks to get key guys the scouts, coaching staff and he have identified as difference makers for our team. This is going to be funniest draft we've had in some time, can't wait.
     
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