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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by finsraider, Mar 17, 2022.

  1. Amel

    Amel Member

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    So, if we get 1st or 2nd we go for either Smith or Ivey

    Banchero locked at 3, and Chet possibly at 4?
     
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  2. roslolian

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    Blakes been hitting 3s since college.

    None of the top 4 are bad players but the other 3 guys can hit 3s and Banchero cant that makes him worse than everyone else. Look at Tobias Harris man thats Banchero's future if he cant hit 3s.
     
  3. roslolian

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    Nobody knows so theres no point knocking yourself out looking for the next Jokic. We can only pick the players we do know at this point.
     
  4. jiggyfly

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    I disagree Carmelo did not have Banchero's playmaking ability or range when he was in college.

    He was more polished in the post and as a midrange shooter, but I think a lot of that is because he was much more assertive looking for his shot.

    Banchero's assertiveness is a red flag for me, but I like the way he stepped up in crunch time last night, like get on my shoulders guys.
    How do you see Smith being more of a superstar with his non existent handles?

    You seem to be projecting all the other 3 more than looking at what there actual skill levels are currently and then acting like Banchero is a finished product at 19 years old that has limited athletic ability, you don't need to be elite at any of those things to be a good to great NBA player.

    I don't see Holmgren being a superstar either do to size and limited ability to get his own shot, i really liked how he tried asserting himself down the stretch last before he fouled out but I am not sure if he has the ability to take over against NBA level guys, Arkansas was checking him with a 6'5 guy.

    I just don't understand why people look at banchero as a finished product when he is still only 19 years old but everybody else has more upside?
    And 2 inches taller, a better rebounder and better handles.

    It's kind of a lazy comp
     
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  5. zeeshan2

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    Well he also went to the Kings where talent goes to die and if you do survive past it, you are not deemed untouchable and traded to the Pacers
     
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  6. steddinotayto

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    Nik Stauskas and Jimmer Fredette never had a chance
     
  7. Reeko

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    Melo might’ve been a more efficient scorer in today’s NBA, I don’t think much would’ve changed with Blake tho aside from him shooting more threes earlier in his career at below average percentages…however, both of them would still be offering little to no value on D

    Paolo probably switchable 2-5? With comps like Melo and Blake Griffin, that doesn’t exactly inspire confidence that that will be the case.
     
  8. zeeshan2

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    Just get a top 4 pick; that's all I want and then depending on where we are and what options we have, I think I got Jabari and then Chet, Duke man, and then Ivey
     
  9. Reeko

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    Paolo is not on Melo’s level as an offensive prospect, so is knockoff Melo Arby’s?

    if Arby’s is selling Paolo short, then I’ll go with TGI Friday’s
     
  10. zeeshan2

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    Jimmer was apparently not wanting to change who he was as a player at all and that's why he washed out
     
  11. jiggyfly

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    I have said Lebron 1.0.

    Not anywhere near the same athletically a lesser playmaker but they both have that feel and all around game.

    They both were kind of tentative at that age , Banchero has a better post game at this age as well.
     
  12. Denovo

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    Blake only shot 10 3s total in two years at Oklahoma.

    Also Tobias Harris is a 36% 3 point shooter for his career with a few season above 40%.

    And Ivey just learned how to shoot this sophomore season. He shot significally worse than Banchero as a freshman.
     
  13. roslolian

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    Lol well first of all when it comes to actually winning Aldridge was a lot better than Melo. Melo was just an inefficient stat padder, Aldridge actually got into deep playoff runs first with Brandon Roy and then with Lillard. Melo has the pts and all the flash but if you need to win a ring you take prime LMA over Melo at the PF spot all day everyday.

    Saying Smith is way reliant on 3 pt shooting doesnt really make any sense cuz he is also an 6'10 athletic freak who can attack the rim, in fact he averaged more fta than Chet this year. Smith's floor is a 6'10 and athletic PJ Tucker, along with Ivey he has the least bust potential in this class. For the Rox with Sengun and Green already Banchero isnt a great fit, Banchero needs to have the ball in his hands and the same is true for Green and Sengun. Banchero can playmake but guess whst so could Sengun and Green. OTH where Green and Sengun do struggle with is on defense and thats not where Banchero dominates. So I dont see a good fit with our 2 building blocks at all.

    Im actually happy Banchero is boosting his stock, maybe he and Chet go no 1 and 2 so the Rox have more assurance of landing Smith.
     
  14. vator

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    I agree. He really has come a long way through what appears to be hard work. I'm sure watching his mom and being exposed to pros helped him see the kind of work ethic he needed to achieve his goals. He got to see guys like Ja Morant up close.

    I really hope Ivey gets measured. There are a lot of discrepancies about his wingspan, but all the reputable sites that I trust have it at either 6'9 or 6'10 which is still amazing for a 6'4 guy. Nearly on par with Wade's freakish length of supposedly 6'4 with a 6'11 wingspan and James Harden's 6'5 with a 6'11 wingspan. I hope he measures so that we can get to see officially what it is, but the eye test indicates that he has tremendous length.

    For comparison sakes, Ja Morant is supposedly 6'3 with a 6'7 wingspan, but he didn't get combine measurements. Lots of these top guys seem to be skipping that process to not potentially hurt their stock I would imagine.
     
  15. roslolian

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    Lebron can dunk from the half court as a rookie and looked as imposing as Karl Malone as an 18 yr old thats what made him get called the Chosen One.

    Nobody serious is comparing Banchero to Lebron. Melo is a better comparison but a less skilled version of Melo.
     
  16. Reeko

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    woah…sorry bro, but I disagree with that heavily

    I see their playmaking, feel for the game, and all around game as being miles apart…not to say that Paolo is severely lacking in those departments, but it is nowhere close to young Bron and just does not compare

    Bron was tentative in what way?
     
  17. ApacheWarrior

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    Sorry I've been absent for a few days....
    people are saying Blake Griffin shot 3's in college?

    Or Steve Blake?
     
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    It was a lazy comp in jest, but Danilo and Paolo are the same height
     
  19. cmoak1982

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    This is where I can’t talk with Jiggy, Paolo and Bron couldn’t be further apart in terms of type and ability
     
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    Shooting, defense, and finishing high are by far the 3 most important abilities for a big man in the modern NBA, Banchero is unremarkable in all 3 areas. Playmaking and putting the ball on the floor isn't what star big men do. Certainly useful skills to have, but not an actual foundation for a superstar. Banchero's problems aside from the shooting aren't really things can can be improved. Not quick enough to be a dominant wing playmaker, not tall/athletic enough to dominate above the rim

    Smith certainly has high bust potential, but he is basically physically equal to Banchero and more athletic. His shooting stroke is elite, and that is the most important ability in todays game. If you told me for sure Banchero would be a great shooter in a few years I would take him no contest over Smith.
     

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