Yeah.... Chet would be toast 15-20 years ago but the league is not at all physical anymore, especially on the interior. The rule changes have brought about a stylistic change as well. It is arguable that the college game is more physical, because there are a lot of large upper classmen that will never make it in the NBA. I keep reading where people are saying that they are not sure that Chet will ever run an offense.... well if he ended up "running an offense" he would be one of the best players ever to play. He will get his points, and he will get better at scoring as well, but what you get with Chet is someone you run your entire defense through, someone that rebounds very well, is good in transition and also can shoot and finish inside.
Sorry, but Carmelo Anthony was a far more developed offensive player than Banchero at the same point.
This draft could end up being like the 2018 draft at the top (Ayton, Bagley, Doncic, JJJ) in terms of talent and potential.
He already does. Nobody hopefully. Griffin looks very 1 dimensional and in love with his 3 point shot, I think he has a lot of upside but I am not drafting him top 10. Lamarcus Aldridge is a very good comp for Smith with better lateral agility and more range. Not as great on the block but I think he could pick that up more than being able to score off the dribble.
players like Melo aren’t as appealing in today’s NBA as the league transitioned away from these meh efficiency ISO players that don’t offer much else aside from scoring all these guys like Melo and Blake Griffin offered little to no D, so if Paolo is that type of big that can score, but isn’t making much of an impact on the other end, then I’m good over here
Melo = Arbys? Paolo has the Meats? LOL A bigger Melo is a flattering comp. He's not my choice, but cmon.
It is possible. There are some guys in the tier after the top 4 that have the upside to be all stars as well. I think that Holmgren and Ivey are above the rest of this class, with Ivey also being the safest pick in this draft. Smith is someone that teams have to really like as well because he should be a plus defender and shooter and there is upside beyond that as well. A team that really needs a scoring power forward but can live with mediocre defense would be all over Banchero as well. Griffin, Sharpe, Mathurin, Murray..... those are guys with potential as well.
lol, that makes Paolo look even less appealing if his defensive expectations are so low yesterday I called him complimentary bread to the brisket that is Chet, Smith, and Ivey, but if this keeps up, I might have to downgrade him to free water
flattering for u maybe I don’t see the lightning quick 1st step that Melo used to have, nor the level of skill, so is it a bigger Melo, or a bigger off-brand Canal Street knockoff Melo? Is Paolo fake Jordans?
I agree, Chet should be used similar to Giannis on defense. Playing him on the weaker big man and allowing him to just float around and play help. He has the defensive IQ to do this. People are going to go for his neck but the one thing that keeps me high on him is he never once looks shook on defense no matter how much he gets overpowered. There's no quit in Chet. While I'm big on Chet I have Paolo just above him. This kid is huge and has ELITE footwork. Once we see measurements of he is legitimately 6'11 with the length I don't see how the Rockets could choose anyone besides Chet/Paolo. I hear people see similarities to Carmelo/Blake and then rank him 4th... I don't understand. Paolo looks significantly bigger physically. We are the worst team in the league if we can get a talent like that you take it. Maybe people are afraid of losing Sengun... We shouldn't be in that mindset, stack talent let the cream rise.
Key word is TODAY. Maybe Melo or Blake develop differently? They are insanely talented guys. They play the way they play because that's how they were coached. Like today, Hakeem would be an elite 3 point shooter and a switchable defender, I'm certain. The insanity of 3 PT copy cats has dissipated as now teams are trying to match up with the Embiid, Jokic and the likes even though that's not possible. Mid-Range has a bit of a renaissance this year. So what is needed in the future? That's projecting just like with the draft. 2 things I think will be crucial in 5 years is above average shot creating and playmaking from at least 3 players at a given time and at minimum 4 switchable players. This is a major concern I have with Sengun and Green. Neither are particularly switchable at this time. I think you can project Green to put on some muscle and be efficient at guarding 1-3 but that means whoever you get going forward needs to be incredibly switchable. I do believe Green will become an elite playmaker at the 2 and I believe Sengun is already there. This is where all four guys can fit into the franchise's future. Chet can probably switch 3-5 at an elite level, Jabari can switch 1-5 at a near elite level, but neither are incredible playmakers right now and Jabari is probably the weakest of the top 4 at playmaking and shot creation. He's catch and shoot. Now you think about projecting into the future. Can he develop a dribble? He's the youngest of the four top picks so you can anticipate he has the most room to grow but that's not certain. Paolo is probably switchable 2-5 at an adequate level but is an elite shotmaker, shot creator and play maker for the position. Ivey on the other hand can project to be an elite 1-4 switchable guard with his strength and length but if he's at the PG next to Jalen, he's below average as a playmaker at this time but an elite shot creator and shot maker. What of the top 4 are you most concerned about? Jabari's lack of separation and creation? If Jabari can develop his handle he's a lock for an All-NBA spot. (incredibly high ceiling but it's hard to get there) Chet's physique? If Chet can stay healthy and continue to put work in the weight room at a slow and steady rate, he's a lock for All-Defense. (very very high ceiling, his body could be a detriment in the long run, not due to getting pushed around but due to injury concerns, that's not fair to project but it has to be a thought in a FO). He has no injury concerns as of now so maybe he just will remain healthy. Paolo's shooting? If Paolo can ensure his shot improves and continues to put in effort on defense, he's a lock for multiple All-Star Appearances (lower ceiling with the likeliest to get there IMO.) Ivey's relaxed defense and lack of playmaking? If Ivey becomes both an elite defender (he has the tools) and an elite playmaker? You're talking about an absolute superstar. He has incredible potential but I just see most of his outcomes being lower than the other 3 in the top 4. If I had to guess which of the top 4 picks won't make an all star game, I would guess Ivey. I also wouldn't be shocked if he's the best of the bunch. It's weird but If he hits that potential? It would be a very very very elite player, top of the league guard talent.
Another thing I like about Ivey is what he's done with his body. I feel like this shows what kind of worker he is. I watched the video below a month ago where he and Jalen played each other in high school. JG was ranked #3 and Ivey at the time was #84. Ivey has significantly improved his body, athleticism, and balance since the time of this video. Like I said, this tells me he’s willing to put the hard work in. JG’s skill level has taken a big leap and he looks more muscular now too, but Ivey is low key a physical specimen if you slot him at point guard. I don't know what program he went on, but he looks like a considerably different level player than what he showed here. This makes me excited about Green. He’s hit the weights a little, but he still has another level to unlock athletically and he’s already a freak. Ivey seems like he has his NBA body and has made a leap already. Similar to if you watch Westbrook’s body transformation from UCLA to a few years in the NBA. It really made him a much more dynamic and explosive player.
I have Ivey and Holmgren 1-2 in this draft, and then have Smith and Banchero. I don't think that Banchero is as good an athlete as Griffin was and I don't think he is as skilled as Anthony was. I don't think Banchero is as good as Holmgren or Ivey because he isn't a good defender, he doesn't block shots and thus far hasn't been that efficient either. Banchero may well score enough and rebound enough to be better than some of the players taken ahead of him but I do not think his upside is as high as Ivey and Holmgren. I can see a team with good defense but lacking a forward that can score going really hard to add Banchero. Once his three improves and he finishes more inside, he will score over 20 a night in the NBA.
Ivey may end up going #1 in this draft..... he is 6'4" and has a wingspan of nearly 7'0".... he is extremely quick and has really good body control. He has all of the tools to be a high level defender at multiple positions and his shot has improved a lot. The only real question mark is play making, and that has improved and he is on a team with terrible spacing and a point guard.... he is the best scorer in this draft and has everything needed to be a very high level scorer and creator..... he is better than a lot of hyped guys the last 5-6 years.
Hey I just said it was flattering. Didn't say I agreed. Melo was a beast back in the day. Far from "Arbys".
