I'm low on Chet Holmgren in terms of myself having to watch Chet Holmgren play every game. Jabari and Banchero, tier 1 for me.
He did great. Was really good game. I’ve said this from the beginning, I wouldn’t say no to Paolo, he would be a great consolation prize imo. But I still don’t think his upside is high.
he also went to the kings . Then to us where our plan was just to cut him for cap space he became ok for a year or two as a defender for Portland iirc . situation is just as important as talent
well yeah. but he was still going to be a lottery pick if the kings didn't take him. he was a bust. lets not sugarcoat that with ok as a defender for a year or two
I've read page after page of people comparing Banchero to Blake Griffin ..... and I just can't see it. People forget just how explosive an athlete BG was before all those injuries. I think the "Bigger Melo" comparison is much better than BG. I wonder how many posters here remember Denver Melo .... He got his in the mid range while doing a little bit of everything else very well, much like Banchero. Banchero isn't that explosive player jumping over other players & cars ....
I agree. Dude wasn't as athletic as he was in LA but he was able to be the primary facilitator on offense, shoot 3s, etc.
The only difference is Paolo won’t be the primary facilitator on any team in the league. Can be a great secondary playmaker. I just don’t know what else he can add to a team if he’s not the first option. Which I don’t see him being on any team except maybe OKC
Yeah for me the Blake comparison is more so about the size than athleticism. Blake was a freak of nature, Paolo isn't that. Coming in the NBA Blake relied on his athleticism, lobs, and maybe 1 or 2 go to moves. Paolo isn't the leaper Blake was but he definitely has a more polished offensive game entering the NBA.
no one’s come up with a single flattering comp for Paolo I saw Detroit Blake Griffin and almost spit up my turmeric and ginger green tea Melo, Blake…u might as well call Paolo the Arby’s of this draft class
The fact that I know we need an impact frontcourt player is the ONLY reason I haven't gone all out WE NEED TO DRAFT Jaden Ivey. BUT… I believe in Jaden Ivey and how his talent translates to the NBA more than any other player in this draft. I believe he will at minimum be a borderline all-star player and a foundational piece. That somehow in some capacity means he must be my number one. Ivey scares me less than any of the top 4. I'm confident that all of his things he excels at will translate to the NBA just fine. He is fast, he's strong, and he is a superior athlete at the PG position. He is going to be able to get to the basket at will and collapse defenses and either finish strong or drive and kick with no problem. My mind is saying Chet, Jabari, or even Paola, but I REALLY WANT Jaden. The Jalen and Jaden...Green/Ivey backcourt, while not yet instantly the best backcourt in the league, will instantly be the most dynamic and athletically explosive backcourt in the NBA with so much room to grow. You have 2 hard-working guys that by all accounts are good people and play unselfishly. I watch them both play off the so ball willingly so I know they wouldn't have any issues playing off one another or being able to share the limelight. You can address wing defenders, rebounding, and interior defense with later picks, future drafts, and free agency. If you pick high and you have the chance to get a star, you draft him and figure it out later because the hardest thing to acquire is a star. His shooting is most likely going to require a little patience and his passing and playmaking are very raw, but I have confidence that those are things he will improve at over time. He is a willing passer.
It's very crude but plugging in specific stats (freshman, forward, FG% 48% or greater, 3PT% 33% or greater), one name that performed similar to Banchero was Miles Bridges...which I think is probably a better comparison than Blake? The biggest difference is Bridges' assist numbers pale in comparison to Banchero. If we take into account assists, a closer comparison would be Jeff Green's first year at Georgetown. Link below. Just messing around with stats
Just like Blake..just not as explosive. He's also like Melo..just not as good a shooter He's like a few star players if you remove their most impressive ability.
lol c'mon Reek...Detroit Blake was awesome that first year or year and a half. Whether or not that type of performance was sustainable or translates to wins is another story.
FWIW I don't think Banchero is the best college player of the top group. Ivey and Holmgren both have been better by every advanced statistic and measure. That isn't to say that Banchero doesn't do some things very well, he is strong, he has a good handle for an interior player, he knows where he is supposed to be on the court offensively and with his size and strength he finishes really well. He can also be a good rebounder too. If his outside shot improves in the NBA (and it should), he will score over 20 points a game in the league. The problem is that he isn't a shot blocker or altering force in the middle and he isn't a very good defender, and won't guard 3's very well. The most impressive player in this draft has by far been Jaden Ivey, who just oozes talent.
well that doesn’t sound too appealing…I want the real thing, not the off-brand knockoff next someone’s gonna say he’s muscular Jabari Parker
@Reeko if ANYONE from this class turns out to be as good as Melo, we would be fortunate. There is no Jalen, Cade or Evan in this class IMO. Chet is the closest but you are looking at guys in the Barnes, Suggs and Kuminga level camp. After the top 5/6 the draft is probably equivalent to a pick in the teens last year. It's just not as good of a prospect class, which doesn't mean someone or many won't surpass expectations. It's all a guessing game. People see big numbers and assume it translates. You have to do so much projecting. Paolo feels like a finished product for some reason while watching him. Does that mean he can't get better? Nah but I personally enjoy a more malleable guy like Chet or Jabari but I wouldn't be shocked if Paolo or Ivey are the best players from this class in the end.
I consider Banchero bust proof. He's shown pretty much everything in this tournament so far. That pull up jumper along the baseline at 1:25 is an NBA move. In that highlight video alone he did a Euro step in transition, a couple of drive and dishes, threw an alley oop, did a spin move to his left (he's right handed), and hit three threes. Highlight vids also don't show a player's feel for the game, and I consider his bball IQ pretty high. He doesn't ball watch on either side of the floor. I know this is just a few tournament games, but the skill level is on display. People are overthinking things like his lack of elite athleticism. The success of players like Nash, Luka, and Jokic recently shows that top tier athleticism isn't necessary at any position. Not putting Banchero on their level by any means, but those saying Banchero has a low ceiling should ask themselves why.
I’d say Detroit Blake was good, but not something I’d be excited about By Detroit Blake, are we talking about just on offense, or Detroit Blake on defense too?
