Carlos Correa to the Twins - 3 Years, $105 Million

yes it’s a low ball… if you were even remotely educated on the business side of baseball you would understand.

For comparison:
1. Tatis JR got 14year $340,000,000
2. Lindor got 10-year $341 million


We also know that at least the orioles offered a 10 year deal around 300.


There was only 2 realistic scenarios either a 9-10 year deal close to 300 million or a short term deal with opt outs.

There was no way Correa signs a 5 year deal. It would completely remove him from ever getting the massive long term deal he earned. He would be a free agent outside of his prime. To even think that is a fair contract means you literally know nothing about baseball lol.

I never would have thought we would be lucky enough to give him basically the same deal we gave a 40 year old pitcher that hasn’t played in 2 years………

But because he switched agents that deal was on the table and since we have pena and our window is now … the best thing for us was to get Correa for 1-2 years at a high annual salary to have the best chance to win the WS.

Obviously it doesn’t make sense to give him a 10 year so the short term deal with opt outs was a no brainer…

The Astros went cheap and it will more than likely cost us a real shot at a championship. And fans like you are pushing the ownership line for them drinking the ignorant koolaid that this was all correas fault.

Maldonado was posting tweets implying Correa was gonna be back because what idiot wouldn’t sign Correa to a 1 year to deal to all but guarantee a return to the WS…..

 

still are in win now mode. Offered Correa 5 years 150. He turned it down and we still are 2nd favorite team to make it back to WS.
We will be fine.

 

If you get into the position where you can not compete without spending at a record level in the free agent market you have already failed. A well run team should never be in such desperate straights. If they are forced into that market by some chance error they must tread lightly and resolve the issue that put them in that position as quickly as possible.

 

it wasn’t a one year deal. Astros would have done that. 3 year with two player opt outs is a joke.
Lindor sucked last year, so far terrible contract.
5 year 150 was fair market for Correa and he turned it down. Could have been a lifer in a houston like Bagwell, Altuve, Biggio…was Correa's choice to say no.

 

I'm ok with letting Correa go, if and only if the vault opens at the deadline if the Astros are missing some pieces. I think we have ample evidence that Correa will win you a series (2020 ALDS) and lose you a series (2019, 2021 WS). Fantastic x factor at his 2021 $11.7m salary. At $35m, he would have to produce MVP numbers again and be consistent in the playoffs just to break even.

Jeremy Pena + another ace at the deadline? Yes please.

 

According to Minnesota sources what tipped the deal for MN was that Correa loves Juicy Lucys (cheeseburger with the cheese inside the patty) and once had a great time at the Minnesota State Fair with GoGo Gomez.

Also that he crushes the ball at Target Field. Although the article rightfully notes we’ll have to see how he does at Target field when it’s not the Twins Staff pitching to him.

plus $35 Million a year can buy a whole lot of Juicy Lucys ya know..
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesot...31bsoH8H8NqioyHiocllivnWtJ6bvCaiV0wrUf7mqdfGk

 

If the fear of the 3 year opt out-laden deal is that his performance declines, or he gets hurt, and thus he opts in… I don’t understand the rationale of then saying it would be acceptable for him to be on the hook for 5 years.

I actually wanted him to take a 3 year deal (or given him the 6-7 year deal, but an opt out after 3). It coincides perfectly with the end of Bregman/Altuve, frees up the window to retain the better of Alvarez/Tucker/Garcia/Valdez… or they have a chance to start all over having been a true bonafied contender for 10+ years.

Correa was basically asking to be franchise tagged… a deal in the NFL that never really benefits the player moreso than the team. We also know Crane can extend/re-negotiate at any given moment (as he did with JV in 2018, or Altuve in 2017) and much easier to do so when you’re not having agents try and lure other teams to the table.

 

all the mental gymnastics don’t explain why crane wouldn’t match the MIN deal, it stuck with the 5 year deal with no opt out. I can’t understand the logic or reasoning. The only conclusion is that Crane is cutting the budget.

im hoping the money saves is used to pay Tucker or a Yordan, and it’s not just about pocketing the cost savings. I’m willing to hold off judgment on that, but Crane has lost a good bit of my confidence. Failing to match MINs deal makes no sense. We can try to justify it all we want, and I want to, but it is indefensible.

 

If he were the best player in baseball with no injury history you would be spot on. But while great, he's not even close to that. $32M AAV is about right for him.

 

it’s a one year deal because the reason he is doing it is so he can get a ten year mega deal next year and so Boras can get his full take.

Just like another poster said if you are worried about being stuck with him because he plays bad for 3 years it is still better than 5 years.

Which it is absolutely 1000% worth the risk on a player you happily gave a “fair” offer to for 5 years. This further proves that they knew the 5 year wasn’t fair and just did it so the fans that don’t know what’s going on would think they tried …………

Not sure if you realize this but 3 years even with opt ins is less than 5 years……….so the Toronto deal was less risky for the Astros than the 5 year deal that they thought was sooooo fair.

 

Exactly I don’t understand how posters somehow think that 5 years at 32 a year was perfect for Astros and Correa but a 3 year (max length deal) at 35 mil was totally out of line and too risky for the Astros.

we lost Correa for 3 million dollars basically … the odds of him opting out are around 99% next year.

once again fans like the ones saying this are why franchises can be mediocre and get away with it.

 

well at 35 million only puts him in the top 10 not the best or highest. The highest being 43 mil a year ….

and none of the salaries on the books take the salary cap increase into consideration which will make all new annual salaries higher next year

 

Correa would have always had one foot out the door and never 100 percent with the team with a deal with two op outs first two years. Constant uncertainty from a player.
5 year deal gives clarity to team of future direction.
better for team to move on.
One year deal would have been perfect for both sides.

 

The only way it isn’t a one year deal is if he got some crazy injury and then we get to run it back the next year with the core still under contract. Still a no brainer no matter the mental gymnastics needed to justify managements incompetence in this.

 

Huh? You realize a 1 year deal also has his “foot out the door”. Does the same logic apply to JV now too?

And if he decides not to opt out, you’re still not on the hook for 4 more possible down/injury years and you optimize the rest of the time you have core players signed for…. Or like I said earlier, Crane could always entice during one of these seasons with more years (to get to the eventual 5-7 year deal) as he did with Altuve and JV in 2018, depending where the finances are.

 

Because it would be borderline stupid to give that kind of contract to a player who was consistently injured during 2017-2019, when he was only 22-24 years old, resulting in him averaging under 100 games per season.

What happens after the ASB next year when he blows his back out or has some other injury requiring surgery and a prolonged rehab/IL stint...and then he opts in and collects another $35M next season after $35M for two thirds of this season while missing the only part that matters (i.e. the playoffs)? You potentially pay someone $70M this season & next for 100 regular season and zero playoff games played.

Then, you get to pay another $35M for the following season and most likely the first half of the season is spent trying to get timing back, etc. OR best case scenario he starts out hot like nothing happened and has a monster season...then he leaves for a bigger payday and you are stuck holding a $105M check for a whopping 1.5 seasons worth of regular season games and 1 playoff run. Alternatively, he could get injured next season and you essentially wind up with the same outcome paying $105M for 1.5 seasons and 1 playoff run.

Obviously, that is worst case scenario...BEST case scenario he has a monster season next year and he then goes right back into free agency and becomes another distraction as we ponder whether we should sign him, etc. while Jeremy Pena, who is already 24 years old and is more than ready, wastes a season being used sparingly filling in for injuries and off days...

Edit: Alternatively, you can see what Pena gives you at SS knowing worst case scenario he should be above average to elite with the glove while costing peanuts...and those savings can then be used at the deadline to acquire pitching that this team is 100% going to need especially with LMJ looking dicey and relying heavily on a 40 year old coming off TMJ surgery.

 

Lol 1 year deal = no foot out the door...1 year deal with potential for 2 or 3 seasons = foot out the door. Math checks out.

 

OR they didn't want to risk having him get injured or perform awfully then opt in to receive another $35M? That's the risk...not the 3 million dollars, or whatever the hell you're talking about.

Edit:

He's playing 7 seasons in the MLB. That includes his rookie season where he was called up a month or so into the season and then the COVID shortened season. So he has played essentially 5 normal full length seasons during his career...

He's played OVER 110 games in 2 out of those 5. These are his 22-26 years old seasons we are talking about...at an age where he shouldn't be getting hurt or at least have the lowest risk that he will have during his career.

Are you trying to argue that there IS NOT a substantial risk of the above scenario happening? If so, how did you arrive at this decision? Just curious.

 

Hole in your pocket syndrome - Foolish. It's better to have more to spend WISELY.

 

"If the fear of the 3 year opt out-laden deal is that his performance declines, or he gets hurt, and thus he opts in… I don’t understand the rationale of then saying it would be acceptable for him to be on the hook for 5 years."

Because if he has a monster MVP caliber season finally this year, we then would have had him at a somewhat team friendly deal the next four seasons. Instead, this deal allows him to walk once again and get paid. That deal is literally all upside for Correa and all downside for the Twins/us. AT BEST the Twins get 1 year of his services at market value essentially. AT WORST they get 250 to 350 games played (i.e. roughly a season worth of games missed) while paying him for THREE seasons...so essentially would be paying him $50M a season if he misses a season worth of games during the 3 year stint.

"Correa was basically asking to be franchise tagged"

Not even remotely close to being true. You understand how the Franchise Tag works, right?