Mark Berman: Astros offering Carlos Correa a 5 year/160 million dollar contract

If that's true, you can take Baltimore out of the competition.

 

Maybe Cleveland will take him for 5 years and 230M..

 

Uggh

 

This is on Crane for lowballing initially.

 

I think they should have offered more initially and made an effort to sign him several years ago. I think it’s very possible Correa took it very personal.

However, I don’t think the Astros misread the market. If a team Carlos wanted to play for offered near $300,000,000 he would be there. So the Astros read the market well but didn’t read Correa well.

Sounds a lot like Correa was upset the Astros didn’t offer what he felt he was worth so rather than sign a short deal with the Astros, he signed a short deal with an organization that he isn’t pissed at.

I can tell you a few days ago the Astros didn’t seem worried about Correa. I think I posted there was more worry about when Verlander was hurt that losing Carlos or Cole.

Let’s see what the Astros do after this. Crane was handling negotiations a few days ago… I will just say this, if Click is the cause then his tenure may be short.

 

Bye Carlos.Hello Jeremy!

 

They have holes in center and at shortstop. Their bullpen still needs an upgrade and who knows about McCullers and Verlander. What troubles me is how passive they have been since Click took over. Waiting around until the trade deadline depletes the farms system- especially when you let those players walk the next year (see, Graveman). That model is going away since more teams make the playoffs, there are less sellers. Between his handling of Springer and Correa, Crane messed up. He has let too much A+ talent walk with *nothing* in return for the outcomes not to decline.

 

This. Especially when we didn't have first round picks the last two years, we needed to retain talent or open the wallet and sign players.

Pena better step up. Bregman better return to form. Altuve better hit .300...we will be ok but a lot of things have to go right for us to compete for a championship this year.

Chas better develop, we need rookie year beastmode Yordan to return...Tucker starts hot and stays hot...I know it's not the end of the world but it doesn't feel good.

 

First reaction to all of this, it sucks. Correa is an awesome talent and was the leader this team and organization needed during a tough time during the scandal fallout.

It's pretty clear his camp wanted to a larger deal. They didn't get the offer he wanted for a couple of a reasons. We don't know what Crane countered with, but it leaves me to think two things. One is the organization wanted long-term commitment and didn't want to deal with opt-outs. Two is they truly believe in Pena.

I've seen a lot of fans bashing Correa. I have nothing negative to say about him. He gave this organization everything. Guys like Michael Conner and others tweeting stuff out about his back and other stuff is just noise.

One last point about this situation is the club house. As someone who manages a team for a living, morale is everything. You had a lot of players pushing hard to this organization to sign Correa. They know Houston could have matched this offer. I do believe the organization made a mistake, and I hope they have something up their sleeve to improve this team either by trade or FA signing. I don't believe there is much out there outside of Story.

Others will point out how this team will still be a contender. To me, today isn't about whether or not this team is a contender as it stands. The morale of a team is everything.

 

This is the part that's laughable to me - not from you, but from the organization. Astros didn't want to do a long-term commitment that Correa wanted (10 years). They also apparently didn't want to do a really short-term commitment. They only wanted to get all of Correa's prime years and nothing more or less, at a price that screws Correa by not letting him maximize value in his other years. That seems ridiculous and strikes me as the Astros just trying to seem interested in Correa but not actually seriously wanting him back. They were only offering deals that they knew he'd never take.

 

Correa was asking for deals he knew the Astros wouldn't ever give also.

 

Based on what he signed with in Minnesota, that doesn't seem likely.

Once the lockout ended, the Astros should have gone to Correa and said "we love you but can't do 10 years. But if those deals don't materialize, we're happy to make you the highest paid player in the short term and get you a chance to try to find a long-term deal again next year. What do you want from us in a 1, 2, or 3 year deal?" And then just go with whatever structure is best for Correa - any reasonable scenario they suggested would have been ideal for the Astros there. The Astros could have offered the Minnesota deal except at $40/$35/$30 instead of $35/$35/$35 and it would still be a beyond-amazing deal from the Astros' side.

 

The Astros know Correa’s medicals. They know his back is a ticking timebomb.

 

So that's why they offered him a 6 year deal but were opposed to him opting out after one year?

You need to just stop with the "I'll try to justify everything that my teams do!" schtick. You're not smart enough to make it work.

 

If he got his 10 year deal I wouldn’t even be mad

This reeks though, I know Click has a lot of apologists on this board, but dude better step his game up quickly or we will be the 07-10 Astros pretty quickly

 

I won't be mad if he manages to sucker a team into giving him a 10 year deal....so long as it's not the Astros.

 

In my opinion Correa got butt hurt that the Stros didn't give him the mega deal he was seeking. However neither did the NYY, LAD, Cubs, BOS, PHI, TEX, LAA or any other major market team. And why? Because he isn't worth it especially with his past health issues.

Correa is a really good player but NO way is he worth a 10 yr 300 mil+ contract here in Houston. Him leaving isn't on Click or Crane. If Correa really wanted to stay here at least one more season it could've been worked out and more than likely it was offered to him and it was what Minn signed him for or more. Plus Minn has a state income tax.

I would have been good with him coming back for at least one more year but that $$ is better off used extending Tuck + Yordan and addressing pitching needs this yr.

 

The problem with this is, how are you going to address the pitching needs at this point? If you were pretty sure you were not bringing him back we should have addressed other needs while the players were available. The pickings are slim at this point, mainly we are left to look at trades which will reduce a farm system already in the bottom half of baseball. Just a terrible off-season for James Click